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New I have met some decent folks years ago
used to do cult deprogramming at one time. Get the protein intake up, sober them up and jolt the thought processes. People in the mental health field are there for many reasons and there are a few who have a dedicated clue. I will try this huckleberry house google.
thanx,
bill
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
New With that experience -
You're ahead - not a lot of difference among drug- religion- peer- brainwashing. Habit handles the ongoing behaviour, once the er engrams get the old neurons lined-up in lock-step.

(Your experience may be recyclable BTW, even more valuable in Your Own Field: creating a 12-step for those wearing Suits and now terminally addicted to Bestial-upgrading: as a malevolent money sump - which results in treating employees as commodities.) This may be a more insidious addiction than any of the above ;-)

Hey..! I could contribute to the slogans for your new vocation (?) (though these won't help the 17 yo so much as a clue-by-4 administered to the pineal gland.)

Don't let SAP sap your brains...

You wouldn't eat sh*t preloaded on your plate - why eat Win MErde?

(Even) DOS programs still work today; how come ya need new Windoze about every other year?

It's 11 pm. Where is Your Data being held hostage tonight?

Windoze? .nyet! Learn it. Follow it. Declare independence.

Ever heard of a computer not being rebooted for 5 years? We've got it!
You can get it.

That place.. "Where you wanted to go today" - did you ever get there?


Etc. (one has to start with simple jingles when facing institutionalized dumbth, y'know)



Luck with the tyke (just an older tyke),

Ashton
New All your data all the time is my slogan
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
     need suggestons for a problematic 17yo - (boxley) - (29)
         First, change all your locks. - (Silverlock) - (10)
             Florida law gets in the way - (boxley) - (9)
                 Can you disown her? -NT - (Silverlock) - (8)
                     gonna find out if we can divorce her -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                         looks like the only statute is - (boxley) - (6)
                             Get a safe. - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                 Which boyfriend? - (boxley) - (4)
                                     Are any of them over 18? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         A 17yo is fair game except if a person over 18 - (boxley) - (2)
                                             Not so sure. Depends on the age gap. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Nope her crew is 16-21 -NT - (boxley)
         Sorry to hear that. - (mmoffitt)
         Ouch! - (jbrabeck)
         Depends a lot on whether Fla's social services - (Ashton) - (3)
             I have met some decent folks years ago - (boxley) - (2)
                 With that experience - - (Ashton) - (1)
                     All your data all the time is my slogan -NT - (boxley)
         Yeeouch! - (orion)
         Re: suggestons for a problematic 17yo - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             Well all of the things mentioned have been tried - (boxley)
         Just 6 months left? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
             I want to do that - (boxley) - (2)
                 Amsterdam, then. - (Ashton) - (1)
                     trouble with amsterdam - (boxley)
         Unfortunately, the truism remains - (wharris2)
         resolution - (boxley) - (3)
             Good luck -NT - (wharris2)
             Let's hope that will help! - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                 Different department - (boxley)

You wouldn't know what normal was if it rode into town on the normal express, kicked down your door with its size normal boots, danced into your living room wearing nothing but the word "normal" and sang "normality is here again" on your dining room table whilst dancing the foxtrot.
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