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New Uncle Ted voted Aye on obstruction ...
A few more votes would have been enough, nicht wahr? He didn't have to be convicted on both to be removed. 50/55 = 91% of Republicans voted to convict and remove him for the obstruction of justice charge.

Counter-factuals are always hard. Johnson only made it by 1 vote. Getting that last vote is likely to be very hard in almost any case one can imagine.

Sure, Democratic Senators weren't going to vote to remove him. That doesn't lessen the importance or decrease the severity of the Republican Senators' actions. Something's very messed up when a political party treats a vote at an impeachment trial as just another political battle because they know they'll lose.

And it seems weird to say after-the-fact that Clinton wouldn't be removed even if ... when the commenter was someone who voted for removal. :-/ But Uncle Ted was a bit of a weird character anyway ("... it's a series of tubes!!!11" ;-)

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Posner's delicious decision on gay marriage - (rcareaga) - (41)
         do younger first cousins have to marry elsewhere? curious -NT - (boxley) - (2)
             Re: do younger first cousins have to marry elsewhere? curious - (rcareaga)
             ignore, dupe - (rcareaga)
         He's fricking wrong on the first cousin law. Dead wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (37)
             pp.17-19 - (Another Scott) - (26)
                 My thinking has "evolved" - (gcareaga) - (23)
                     So has mine, but in the exact opposite direction. - (mmoffitt) - (22)
                         But they are - (pwhysall) - (21)
                             Then why the two words? - (mmoffitt) - (20)
                                 Marriage is marriage. - (pwhysall)
                                 Re: Then why the two words? - (gcareaga) - (18)
                                     I prefer calling a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel. - (mmoffitt) - (17)
                                         I know plenty of people who got married for love - (malraux) - (8)
                                             It may be narrow, but I claim it's logical. - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                 But marriage isn't logical. - (malraux) - (6)
                                                     Well, it should be. It's a contract. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                         Your vows must have been very interesting. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                             Heh. - (mmoffitt)
                                                         Reminds me of Humpty Dumpty. - (a6l6e6x)
                                                         thats the old, you knocked her up you have to marry her - (boxley) - (1)
                                                             Ah, but - (pwhysall)
                                         so were you banging someone on the side? One for children and one for fun? - (boxley) - (2)
                                             Yeah, but you didn't have any Soviet influence. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                 no, but glaswegian socialists are close enough -NT - (boxley)
                                         One could as easily overlay your inculcated-syllogism on 'religious'/non-religious pairings. - (Ashton) - (4)
                                             I find Bakunin's argument compelling. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                 You can't believe you might be wrong on this - (Silverlock)
                                                 Marriage is a lot of things. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     "Nice summary" = assumes facts not in evidence and an incredibly weak argument. - (mmoffitt)
                 Thanks. Context is everything. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     my idea of a ideal family - (boxley)
             Re: He's fricking wrong on the first cousin law. Dead wrong. - (malraux)
             Thank you for your contribution - (rcareaga) - (8)
                 He does have his critics though... - (Another Scott) - (7)
                     Congress would not have voted to impeach unless they were sure that - (boxley) - (5)
                         Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             chatted with some of the participants after the fact - (boxley) - (3)
                                 One of the five? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     One of the additional five -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         Uncle Ted voted Aye on obstruction ... - (Another Scott)
                     Masterful standoff; two equally skilled legal-logic-antagonists - (Ashton)

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