chatted with some of the participants after the fact

Post #394,174 by boxley 9/6/14 3:35:47 PM Reply	chatted with some of the participants after the fact the phrase wouldnt impeach if he was standing with a smoking gun over the body of a dead woman while being serviced by a young boy, is a reasonable paraphrase by a republican senator who was there at the time Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #394,177 by Another Scott 9/6/14 5:05:39 PM Reply	One of the five? 'pedia: The trial in the United States Senate began right after the seating of the 106th Congress, in which the Republicans began with 55 senators. A two-thirds majority (67 senators) was required to remove Clinton from office. Fifty senators voted to remove Clinton on the obstruction of justice charge and 45 voted to remove him on the perjury charge; no Democrat voted guilty on either charge. [...] The five Republican senators who voted against conviction on both charges were John Chafee of Rhode Island, Susan Collins of Maine, Jim Jeffords of Vermont, Olympia Snowe of Maine, and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania. The additional five Republican senators who voted "not guilty" only on the perjury charge were Slade Gorton of Washington, Richard Shelby of Alabama, Ted Stevens of Alaska, Fred Thompson of Tennessee, and John Warner of Virginia. Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #394,178 by boxley 9/6/14 5:12:38 PM Reply	One of the additional five Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
Post #394,181 by Another Scott 9/6/14 5:41:21 PM Reply	Uncle Ted voted Aye on obstruction ... A few more votes would have been enough, nicht wahr? He didn't have to be convicted on both to be removed. 50/55 = 91% of Republicans voted to convict and remove him for the obstruction of justice charge. Counter-factuals are always hard. Johnson only made it by 1 vote. Getting that last vote is likely to be very hard in almost any case one can imagine. Sure, Democratic Senators weren't going to vote to remove him. That doesn't lessen the importance or decrease the severity of the Republican Senators' actions. Something's very messed up when a political party treats a vote at an impeachment trial as just another political battle because they know they'll lose. And it seems weird to say after-the-fact that Clinton wouldn't be removed even if ... when the commenter was someone who voted for removal. :-/ But Uncle Ted was a bit of a weird character anyway ("... it's a series of tubes!!!11" ;-) FWIW. Cheers, Scott.

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