Save yourself the time and effort

Post #39,365 by pwhysall 5/21/02 12:46:34 AM Reply	Save yourself the time and effort Rebuild the thing. It's broken from the core outwards. You can't put this back together in a reasonable time. Never install Windows 2000 Server on a FAT partition. Never ever ever. FAT sucks the Pacific through a straw, and there's no reason to use it. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #39,375 by imric 5/21/02 7:49:08 AM Reply	I thought the reason to use FAT was for recovery purposes...? Back when keeping windows running was part of my job, I had an NT install on NTFS go south on me, and I ended up having to purchase a boot diskette that allowed me to copy replacement files to the OS partition... I take it this is no longer necessary? Does 2000 provide the ability to create a boot disk? Is the CD bootable and does it have recovery utilities (that don't simply overwrite the whole disk) now? I really don't know - On all my machines, I only have 3 windows partitions. 1 is on my main server; laziness is the only reason it's still there, 1 for Everquest - I didn't feel like laying out cash for 2000 just for 1 game, and a 2000 partition on a laptop (running Linux most of the time) - there to support the copy of MS-office that also came on the laptop - so I no longer consider myself an authority about such things... Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #39,390 by pwhysall 5/21/02 11:50:21 AM Reply	Windows NT/2000 Server + FAT == Bad Juju You never need to do that. If you need to dink around with your installation, you plonk another copy of NT on the box - ideally on a different drive - and then boot that up to do yer doin's. This has the added advantage of allowing you to run with a filesystem that isn't glass-fragile and does actually support security. Anyone who kept their servers on FAT for "recovery purposes" didn't have a decent recovery plan in place. Hacking around in %SYSTEMROOT%\\Drivers with a DOS boot disk on a production server indicates a lack of forethought and specifically a lack of backups. The Windows 2000 Server CD is bootable and has a facility called the Recovery Console which allows you to perform maintenance on your installation. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #39,395 by Steve Lowe 5/21/02 12:50:28 PM Reply	Dual Boot ext2/fat32 I run my laptop with Win2k and (currently) Debian Sid (PIII-800,256m RAM). I purposely used fat32 with Win2k and ext2 with Linux for interoperablity. It's quite easy to mount fat32 (as vfat) R/W from Linux and ext2 as R/W from Win2K so no matter what OS I'm using, I can still access all my data files (mp3s being the most oft). This machine isn't a server though, and, of course, YMMV :-) ----- Steve
Post #39,397 by imric 5/21/02 1:06:07 PM Reply	I'll go with that 1/2 way. NT was an unstable POS. It DID crash, and you advocate having a secondary OS partition, just to replace files on the primary OS partition? It screwed up about the same amount of the time whether it was on FAT or NTFS, IIRC - I saw no advantage to running the OS on NTFS. Apps, data, that's another story.. I assume, O Professional Shill (grin), that since your 'decent recovery plan' seems to include redundant OS partitions on every machine, that you DIDN'T just RRR for what might be a trivial problem (if the OS partition was accessible)? I'm curious about the licensing involved, too - does MS not care about two MS-OS partitions on the same box? And - don't worry. Back in those days, I was in charge, and I did not like using Windows for any server tasks (we did have some development servers - it was a software house). We used the AS/400 for DB, and OS/2 for file & print... I've heard about the Recovery Console for 2000, but I don't know what, exactly, it can do - as my laptop hasn't needed it, yet (only 3 OS crashes so far, all fine on reboot). Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #39,404 by pwhysall 5/21/02 1:48:12 PM Reply	You need to click that shill link :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #39,430 by imric 5/21/02 5:54:56 PM Reply	grin Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

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