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Post #391,070
6/22/14 6:10:42 PM
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Re: advanced civilizations would be immortal
I distinctly recall Sagan mentioning civilizations doing away with themselves because of some stupid act.
Frankly, between folks seeking rapture and those seeking 72 virgins, it's becoming an ever more probable event. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #391,071
6/22/14 6:46:10 PM
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Re: advanced civilizations would be immortal
It shouldn't be binary; all cigs endure or all perish. Okay, well maybe the latter, but if so what is the lifespan? Need a variable even if it is a blind guess.
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Are we alone in the universe?
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lincoln)
- (20)
- June 20, 2014, 11:38:42 AM EDT
Several things have been pointed out.
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Andrew Grygus)
- (2)
- June 20, 2014, 12:10:07 PM EDT
dang, I wanted to open up an intergalactic brothel.
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boxley)
- June 20, 2014, 05:45:15 PM EDT
Excellent points. Thanks.
-NT
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Another Scott)
- June 20, 2014, 07:17:34 PM EDT
Perhaps the noisy ones end up dead.
-NT
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malraux)
- June 20, 2014, 07:29:58 PM EDT
Yup, thirteen Billion Years+ of inter-galactic crap-shoots and
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Ashton)
- June 20, 2014, 08:31:13 PM EDT
It's easy to forget how huge the Universe is...
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Another Scott)
- June 21, 2014, 01:16:06 AM EDT
Some assumptions lurking in that.
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static)
- June 20, 2014, 10:09:33 PM EDT
I am reminded of a cartoon of two ants...
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hnick)
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- June 21, 2014, 08:20:59 AM EDT
:-) Yup.
-NT
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Another Scott)
- June 21, 2014, 08:42:21 AM EDT
This is my opinion as well.
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folkert)
- June 21, 2014, 11:11:18 AM EDT
The Drake Equation
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gcareaga)
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- June 21, 2014, 10:04:12 PM EDT
Heard Carl Sagan explain it on stage in LA back in 1974.
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a6l6e6x)
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- June 22, 2014, 03:25:06 PM EDT
From the source
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gcareaga)
- (5)
- June 22, 2014, 04:07:49 PM EDT
Indeed the source!
-NT
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a6l6e6x)
- (4)
- June 22, 2014, 04:53:53 PM EDT
Missed opportunity
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gcareaga)
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- June 22, 2014, 05:50:21 PM EDT
Re: advanced civilizations would be immortal
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a6l6e6x)
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- June 22, 2014, 06:10:42 PM EDT
Re: advanced civilizations would be immortal
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gcareaga)
- June 22, 2014, 06:46:10 PM EDT
Thanks for reminder 'extinction rate', also that bias.
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Ashton)
- June 22, 2014, 07:16:11 PM EDT
Apparently Fermi had a version, too.
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Another Scott)
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- June 29, 2014, 11:31:29 PM EDT
Great material for honing the fringe of what-ifs? of more practical aims, maybe.
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Ashton)
- July 6, 2014, 05:02:56 AM EDT
Remember, people in 1900 didn't know what an atom was. They didn't know its structure.
They also didn't know what a radio was, or an airport, or a movie, or a television, or a computer, or a cell phone, or a jet, an antibiotic, a rocket, a satellite, an MRI, ICU, IUD, IBM, IRA, ERA, EEG, EPA, IRS, DOD, PCP, HTML, internet. interferon, instant replay, remote sensing, remote control, speed dialing, gene therapy, gene splicing, genes, spot welding, heat-seeking, bipolar, prozac, leotards, lap dancing, email, tape recorder, CDs, airbags, plastic explosive, plastic, robots, cars, liposuction, transduction, superconduction, dish antennas, step aerobics, smoothies, twelve-step, ultrasound, nylon, rayon, teflon, fiber optics, carpal tunnel, laser surgery, laparoscopy, corneal transplant, kidney transplant, AIDS... None of this would have meant anything to a person in the year 1900. They wouldn't know what you are talking about.
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