Excellent list, George! But let's be realistic here—we can't even get a realistic 3rd party option on the damn Presidential ballot, much less anything even remotely approximating a "government of the wise"....

..ameliorated by,
It's stories like this and the Fermi Paradox that make me love you io9.

Thanks, intelligent however unlikely approachable from this deep in the mineshaft of Wealth-adoration via perpetual circus-diversions.

mmoffitt's thought experiment: let's discuss - (rcareaga) - (54) - June 11, 2014, 02:17:32 PM EDT

how is your spanish? -NT - (boxley) - (7) - June 11, 2014, 02:48:59 PM EDT

Explain your point, with great length please. - (folkert) - (6) - June 11, 2014, 03:09:38 PM EDT

no problema carnecita - (boxley) - (5) - June 11, 2014, 10:30:30 PM EDT

You really are... - (folkert) - (4) - June 12, 2014, 09:23:29 AM EDT

boys, boys - (rcareaga) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 10:20:31 AM EDT

depending upon how the state breaks down - (boxley) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 10:31:34 AM EDT

excellent point - (rcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 10:47:13 AM EDT

Re: lure for hard charging folks like the cartels. - (mmoffitt) - June 12, 2014, 11:08:39 AM EDT

I'd be willing to forego the common militia. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 03:38:42 PM EDT

"free, unimpeded movement" - (rcareaga) - (8) - June 11, 2014, 04:54:31 PM EDT

Dude, don't kill my Utopian Buzz. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - June 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM EDT

brief clarification & then - (rcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 10:05:14 AM EDT

I'll bet you're a Kunstler fan -NT - (drook) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 11:44:46 AM EDT

or conceivably of these folks - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 12:16:48 PM EDT

Hmmm.. a Gantt-chart of these overlapping mind-sets would resemble a - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 07:59:45 PM EDT

another imagined contention - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 05:09:10 PM EDT

I wonder. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 13, 2014, 09:18:40 AM EDT

That seems plausible - (rcareaga) - June 13, 2014, 10:09:16 AM EDT

Fare thee well - (gcareaga) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 04:32:46 PM EDT

Left to their own devices ... - (mmoffitt) - (6) - June 11, 2014, 04:40:57 PM EDT

Re: Left to their own devices ... - (rcareaga) - (3) - June 11, 2014, 05:03:17 PM EDT

Heh - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 11, 2014, 05:24:36 PM EDT

I borrowed the term... - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 11, 2014, 05:47:02 PM EDT

Pakistan had help. - (Another Scott) - June 11, 2014, 08:31:58 PM EDT

Forget the nukes - (scoenye) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 08:46:26 AM EDT

Seems a predictably-insoluble conundrum.. indefinitely. - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 07:09:05 PM EDT

Georgia already has the material - (boxley) - (1) - June 11, 2014, 07:55:06 PM EDT

Securing nuclear materials - (gcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 12:50:16 PM EDT

It's not the number of people that matters. - (Another Scott) - (23) - June 11, 2014, 08:57:11 PM EDT

California even survived Gov. Moonbeam! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 11:22:13 PM EDT

You're aware, aren't you - (rcareaga) - (8) - June 12, 2014, 12:40:53 AM EDT

Every week I get several calls asking me to invest . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - June 12, 2014, 02:52:07 AM EDT

My first thought on first hearing the Moonbeam appellation was the obvious one: - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 04:48:29 PM EDT

Did you note the smiley? - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - June 12, 2014, 06:22:43 PM EDT

Noted, yes, but - (rcareaga) - (4) - June 12, 2014, 06:33:09 PM EDT

Well, Prop 13 comes to mind. - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 07:32:11 PM EDT

Re: Well, Prop 13 comes to mind. - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 07:57:12 PM EDT

Wiki-P gives a decent synopsis of Gann/Jarvis' motives and.. - (Ashton) - June 13, 2014, 04:44:01 PM EDT

I remember my dad accurately predicting Prop 13 would destroy CA schools. - (mmoffitt) - June 13, 2014, 09:09:29 AM EDT

Why not provide all states with nukes, then? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 08:48:54 AM EDT

Why not? Because... - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 09:48:18 AM EDT

Since about 1983, ... - (mmoffitt) - June 12, 2014, 11:01:23 AM EDT

But size and geographic proximity do. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 09:39:11 AM EDT

The drowning northeast - (gcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 12:33:17 PM EDT

The triage following the first serious water intrusions.. cannot fail to catalyze - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 05:27:50 PM EDT

"Kampuchea...was briefly ruled by genocidal psychopaths" - (rcareaga) - (6) - June 12, 2014, 12:24:55 PM EDT

Foul!! Before displaying such a visage, the decent person - (Ashton) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 05:04:31 PM EDT

in a more perfect word... - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 05:15:47 PM EDT

(I truly Should... live so long.) -NT - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 08:03:50 PM EDT

Much more apropos (and Fixed It For You) - (folkert) - June 12, 2014, 11:31:33 PM EDT

Where is my barf bucket? -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 06:26:21 PM EDT

here ya go - (boxley) - June 12, 2014, 06:52:43 PM EDT

Related: - (malraux) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 04:07:02 PM EDT

Food for thought, but as an early responder notes, - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 08:17:57 PM EDT

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