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Post #390,697
by boxley
6/12/14 10:31:34 AM
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New depending upon how the state breaks down
as well as states like new mexico, southern texas and parts of arizona there may well be latino countries in the mix. If so how would that be integrated into moffit's federation or would they seek alliances elsewhere? In any case political turmoil is a lure for hard charging folks like the cartels. They are organized with a strong financial backing.
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Post #390,698
by rcareaga
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6/12/14 10:47:13 AM
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New excellent point
political turmoil is a lure for hard charging folks like the cartels
Cartels, demagogues, what you will. The United States of America is a giant bottle containing a mixture of poisons. Note that "containing." When the bottle breaks, a lot of nasty stuff is going to come spilling out. I doubt whether any of these ingredients will combine to form Utopia.

cordially,
Post #390,700
by mmoffitt
6/12/14 11:08:39 AM
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New Re: lure for hard charging folks like the cartels.
Hence my call for a "common defensive militia." If there were Latino states constructed who, say, wanted alliances with Spain or Mexico (although I think the latter unlikely) I don't think it would be up to anyone but the citizens of that state to decide.
     mmoffitt's thought experiment: let's discuss - (rcareaga) - (54) - June 11, 2014, 02:17:32 PM EDT
         how is your spanish? -NT - (boxley) - (7) - June 11, 2014, 02:48:59 PM EDT
             Explain your point, with great length please. - (folkert) - (6) - June 11, 2014, 03:09:38 PM EDT
                 no problema carnecita - (boxley) - (5) - June 11, 2014, 10:30:30 PM EDT
                     You really are... - (folkert) - (4) - June 12, 2014, 09:23:29 AM EDT
                         boys, boys - (rcareaga) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 10:20:31 AM EDT
                             depending upon how the state breaks down - (boxley) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 10:31:34 AM EDT
                                 excellent point - (rcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 10:47:13 AM EDT
                                 Re: lure for hard charging folks like the cartels. - (mmoffitt) - June 12, 2014, 11:08:39 AM EDT
         I'd be willing to forego the common militia. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 03:38:42 PM EDT
             "free, unimpeded movement" - (rcareaga) - (8) - June 11, 2014, 04:54:31 PM EDT
                 Dude, don't kill my Utopian Buzz. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - June 12, 2014, 08:47:10 AM EDT
                     brief clarification & then - (rcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 10:05:14 AM EDT
                     I'll bet you're a Kunstler fan -NT - (drook) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 11:44:46 AM EDT
                         or conceivably of these folks - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 12:16:48 PM EDT
                             Hmmm.. a Gantt-chart of these overlapping mind-sets would resemble a - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 07:59:45 PM EDT
                     another imagined contention - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 05:09:10 PM EDT
                         I wonder. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 13, 2014, 09:18:40 AM EDT
                             That seems plausible - (rcareaga) - June 13, 2014, 10:09:16 AM EDT
         Fare thee well - (gcareaga) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 04:32:46 PM EDT
             Left to their own devices ... - (mmoffitt) - (6) - June 11, 2014, 04:40:57 PM EDT
                 Re: Left to their own devices ... - (rcareaga) - (3) - June 11, 2014, 05:03:17 PM EDT
                     Heh - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 11, 2014, 05:24:36 PM EDT
                         I borrowed the term... - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 11, 2014, 05:47:02 PM EDT
                             Pakistan had help. - (Another Scott) - June 11, 2014, 08:31:58 PM EDT
                 Forget the nukes - (scoenye) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 08:46:26 AM EDT
                     Seems a predictably-insoluble conundrum.. indefinitely. - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 07:09:05 PM EDT
             Georgia already has the material - (boxley) - (1) - June 11, 2014, 07:55:06 PM EDT
                 Securing nuclear materials - (gcareaga) - June 12, 2014, 12:50:16 PM EDT
         It's not the number of people that matters. - (Another Scott) - (23) - June 11, 2014, 08:57:11 PM EDT
             California even survived Gov. Moonbeam! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (9) - June 11, 2014, 11:22:13 PM EDT
                 You're aware, aren't you - (rcareaga) - (8) - June 12, 2014, 12:40:53 AM EDT
                     Every week I get several calls asking me to invest . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - June 12, 2014, 02:52:07 AM EDT
                     My first thought on first hearing the Moonbeam appellation was the obvious one: - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 04:48:29 PM EDT
                     Did you note the smiley? - (a6l6e6x) - (5) - June 12, 2014, 06:22:43 PM EDT
                         Noted, yes, but - (rcareaga) - (4) - June 12, 2014, 06:33:09 PM EDT
                             Well, Prop 13 comes to mind. - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 07:32:11 PM EDT
                                 Re: Well, Prop 13 comes to mind. - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 07:57:12 PM EDT
                                     Wiki-P gives a decent synopsis of Gann/Jarvis' motives and.. - (Ashton) - June 13, 2014, 04:44:01 PM EDT
                                 I remember my dad accurately predicting Prop 13 would destroy CA schools. - (mmoffitt) - June 13, 2014, 09:09:29 AM EDT
             Why not provide all states with nukes, then? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 08:48:54 AM EDT
                 Why not? Because... - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 09:48:18 AM EDT
                     Since about 1983, ... - (mmoffitt) - June 12, 2014, 11:01:23 AM EDT
             But size and geographic proximity do. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 09:39:11 AM EDT
                 The drowning northeast - (gcareaga) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 12:33:17 PM EDT
                     The triage following the first serious water intrusions.. cannot fail to catalyze - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 05:27:50 PM EDT
             "Kampuchea...was briefly ruled by genocidal psychopaths" - (rcareaga) - (6) - June 12, 2014, 12:24:55 PM EDT
                 Foul!! Before displaying such a visage, the decent person - (Ashton) - (3) - June 12, 2014, 05:04:31 PM EDT
                     in a more perfect word... - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 12, 2014, 05:15:47 PM EDT
                         (I truly Should... live so long.) -NT - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 08:03:50 PM EDT
                         Much more apropos (and Fixed It For You) - (folkert) - June 12, 2014, 11:31:33 PM EDT
                 Where is my barf bucket? -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 06:26:21 PM EDT
                     here ya go - (boxley) - June 12, 2014, 06:52:43 PM EDT
         Related: - (malraux) - (1) - June 12, 2014, 04:07:02 PM EDT
             Food for thought, but as an early responder notes, - (Ashton) - June 12, 2014, 08:17:57 PM EDT

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