Name calling?
Incredibly, I apparently have still not made clear that I have no objection to gay couples enjoying all the legal rights, privileges and responsibilities as married couples. Since I had issue with the accuracy of only one of the two things you mentioned, my reply was directed at the one of the two with which I took issue.
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"No objection"?!?
Your argument here seems to be too subtle and too strident at the same time. You seem to me to be objecting a great deal to gay people coming out with fanfare, or getting married, or expecting to be treated as a customer when they want a service from a company.
How is that not "objecting"? It's an understandable position to dislike and argue against the concept of gay marriage. Or even "sterile marriage". :-/ But to simultaneously say that you've got no objection to people being treated equally doesn't make any sense. IMHO. People are treated equally, or they're not. "Separate but equal" isn't equal. What am I missing? Thanks. Cheers, Scott. |
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Maybe one of my posts?
If this whole "marriage equality" question had instead been posed as, "Should homosexual civil commitments (or whatever phrase) receive all benefits under the law and be recognized as being the equal of marriage?" you'd have heard nary a peep from me. http://forum.iwethey...iwt?postid=388345 My father used to have a saying, "Let's agree to call a spade a spade." I just don't want to call a spade a shovel. |
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Doesn't matter
We went through this with Beep. Separate but equal does not work, many thousandS laws and millions of contracts would need to be rewritten then litigated. So no point in building that straw man, it would never happen and merely a distraction.
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Sullivan defends Eich.
- (mmoffitt)
- (80)
- April 7, 2014, 11:04:07 AM EDT
Awww
- (crazy)
- (66)
- April 7, 2014, 11:56:23 AM EDT
Here's a geniune gay perspective for you.
- (mmoffitt)
- (65)
- April 7, 2014, 01:29:51 PM EDT
I'm reminded of a certain Anatole France quote...
- (Another Scott)
- April 7, 2014, 01:31:21 PM EDT
Bull****
- (drook)
- (63)
- April 7, 2014, 01:32:37 PM EDT
Both result in children, then?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (62)
- April 7, 2014, 01:38:36 PM EDT
Reproduction is not a requirement of marriage.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- (59)
- April 7, 2014, 01:45:19 PM EDT
Not the point I was addressing.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 7, 2014, 02:58:04 PM EDT
Related: USSC declines review of photography case.
- (mmoffitt)
- (57)
- April 7, 2014, 03:54:24 PM EDT
ahh, so sad
- (crazy)
- (56)
- April 7, 2014, 04:58:52 PM EDT
HA!
- (mmoffitt)
- (55)
- April 8, 2014, 08:11:52 AM EDT
Re: HA!
- (Another Scott)
- (7)
- April 8, 2014, 08:18:01 AM EDT
But in no species does it result in a next generation. HTH.
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (6)
- April 8, 2014, 09:52:15 AM EDT
Evolution is driven by genes, not individuals.
- (Another Scott)
- (5)
- April 8, 2014, 10:33:11 AM EDT
Wow. Really?
- (mmoffitt)
- (4)
- April 8, 2014, 12:02:03 PM EDT
If they're not passed on, why do they exist?
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- April 8, 2014, 12:23:14 PM EDT
We're past each other. But, I'll answer.
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- April 8, 2014, 01:12:59 PM EDT
Yeah, we're talking past each other.
- (Another Scott)
- April 8, 2014, 02:03:51 PM EDT
howsabout gay male help tend the fire so orc and ug
- (boxley)
- April 9, 2014, 08:55:15 PM EDT
So what?
- (pwhysall)
- (46)
- April 8, 2014, 05:42:46 PM EDT
Not at all!
- (mmoffitt)
- (45)
- April 9, 2014, 08:36:37 AM EDT
You miss the point in grand style.
- (pwhysall)
- (16)
- April 9, 2014, 10:54:27 AM EDT
This has confused me since I was 12.
- (mmoffitt)
- (11)
- April 9, 2014, 11:31:04 AM EDT
Taxes and legal rights.
- (malraux)
- (8)
- April 9, 2014, 11:51:56 AM EDT
And how about ...
- (drook)
- April 9, 2014, 11:55:51 AM EDT
Don't know about you, but our taxes went up.
- (mmoffitt)
- (6)
- April 9, 2014, 12:45:03 PM EDT
Oh, right.
- (malraux)
- (5)
- April 9, 2014, 02:41:06 PM EDT
Bryce is the reason?
- (pwhysall)
- April 9, 2014, 03:16:51 PM EDT
Name calling?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 04:12:08 PM EDT
"No objection"?!?
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- April 9, 2014, 04:40:17 PM EDT
Maybe one of my posts?
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- April 9, 2014, 04:45:58 PM EDT
Doesn't matter
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 04:56:44 PM EDT
Cornerstone cultural significance
- (crazy)
- (1)
- April 9, 2014, 12:20:38 PM EDT
Heh.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 9, 2014, 12:46:48 PM EDT
You know what I find funny?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 12:55:45 PM EDT
Ahh, default priviledge
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 01:00:27 PM EDT
That's because you're the default.
- (pwhysall)
- April 9, 2014, 03:08:59 PM EDT
Brendan Fraser movie "School Ties"
- (drook)
- April 9, 2014, 04:56:11 PM EDT
The law calls it "marriage"
- (drook)
- (26)
- April 9, 2014, 10:57:46 AM EDT
Then why isn't my mother called a father?
- (mmoffitt)
- (25)
- April 9, 2014, 11:33:53 AM EDT
Because she is the birth mother
- (drook)
- (24)
- April 9, 2014, 11:48:01 AM EDT
rofl.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 9, 2014, 12:10:18 PM EDT
Bzzzt. Two daughters. HTH.
- (mmoffitt)
- (22)
- April 9, 2014, 12:53:06 PM EDT
Maybe you sell yourself short. Maybe not.
- (crazy)
- (21)
- April 9, 2014, 01:26:25 PM EDT
ok
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 03:39:31 PM EDT
Interesting question.
- (mmoffitt)
- (19)
- April 9, 2014, 04:36:38 PM EDT
not what I asked
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 04:53:32 PM EDT
What's wrong with adoption?
-NT
- (drook)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 04:59:00 PM EDT
game over
- (crazy)
- (2)
- April 9, 2014, 05:03:13 PM EDT
told ya
- (crazy)
- April 10, 2014, 06:43:16 PM EDT
double post - slow iwethey
- (crazy)
- April 10, 2014, 06:45:24 PM EDT
Hmmm...
- (hnick)
- (11)
- April 9, 2014, 06:55:26 PM EDT
Mine doesn't really vary much.
- (mmoffitt)
- (10)
- April 10, 2014, 02:35:10 PM EDT
Call it a flapjack for all of mine...
- (hnick)
- (2)
- April 10, 2014, 08:02:46 PM EDT
Well said.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 10, 2014, 08:45:26 PM EDT
Then we agree, I think.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 11, 2014, 09:30:51 AM EDT
You keep asking this question.
- (pwhysall)
- (6)
- April 11, 2014, 03:55:09 AM EDT
Hmmm...
- (mmoffitt)
- (5)
- April 11, 2014, 09:46:54 AM EDT
A few things...
- (Another Scott)
- (4)
- April 11, 2014, 10:17:48 AM EDT
How can we agree?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 11, 2014, 12:55:23 PM EDT
That nitpick is 34,200,00 HTH.
-NT
- (folkert)
- (2)
- April 11, 2014, 01:03:37 PM EDT
The nits, they must be picked!
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 11, 2014, 02:57:10 PM EDT
Math is not your strong suit is it? But, no matter. ;0)
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- April 12, 2014, 08:43:09 PM EDT
Your objection to, 'taking sex-orientation as any big deal'
- (Ashton)
- (1)
- April 10, 2014, 06:08:10 AM EDT
I hate to admit it, but you're right.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 10, 2014, 02:11:53 PM EDT
Hmm...
- (Another Scott)
- April 9, 2014, 10:59:07 AM EDT
Why do you need the government to recognize that difference?
-NT
- (drook)
- (1)
- April 7, 2014, 01:59:15 PM EDT
Why do you need the government to say there isn't one?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- April 7, 2014, 02:58:56 PM EDT
Hehe
- (pwhysall)
- (1)
- April 7, 2014, 01:02:59 PM EDT
Good summary.
-NT
- (static)
- April 7, 2014, 08:38:16 PM EDT
TBogg's take.
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- April 8, 2014, 08:15:41 AM EDT
And a gay man responds.
- (mmoffitt)
- (2)
- April 8, 2014, 09:54:22 AM EDT
Oh, bollocks
- (pwhysall)
- April 8, 2014, 05:44:59 PM EDT
Meanwhile, in other controversial areas:
- (Ashton)
- April 8, 2014, 08:19:04 PM EDT
nicely countered
- (crazy)
- (6)
- April 17, 2014, 12:26:22 PM EDT
Reminds me of this
- (drook)
- April 17, 2014, 12:56:23 PM EDT
Counter to what?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 17, 2014, 02:32:08 PM EDT
Of course
- (drook)
- (1)
- April 17, 2014, 03:00:21 PM EDT
But, you forgot "the sign". :)
-NT
- (a6l6e6x)
- April 17, 2014, 05:06:03 PM EDT
There's also a 'fore-runner' Issue: 'DINK's. Way-back.
- (Ashton)
- April 18, 2014, 03:15:25 AM EDT
sic the Official SpokesGay on them
- (boxley)
- April 17, 2014, 08:05:03 PM EDT