We're past each other. But, I'll answer.
You know darned well how I think it might be possible for a still unknown genetic tendency toward homosexuality to be propagated in a heterosexual species (excluding the pregnancies derived from homosexual males and/or females having heterosexual sex). You also know darned well that I can have no factual basis to believe what I believe about this because there are no known genetic markers for homosexuality. Since you asked, I'll repeat myself. I believe - like the rest of the world believed until 1973 when political pressure was applied based upon a trivially small study - that a genetic predisposition to homosexuality exists and that the genes yielding the homosexual phenotype are related to the genes associated with mental illness.
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Yeah, we're talking past each other.
Trouble is, genes aren't binary. As the article points out, genes that cause sickle cell disease also help to increase the chance of survival of malaria. The benefits of having genes that increase homosexual tendencies may have other benefits that aren't immediately apparent.
(That's one of the reasons why eugenics is not just evil, it's stupid.) "Mental illness" is a big minefield. Just about every woman was lumped in that category at one time (and not that long ago). Dirac may have been autistic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Dirac "Fixing" homosexuals didn't end well in at least one famous case - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing Understanding changes. The world becomes a tiny, confining place when we try to force it into boxes. Treating everyone equally, with equal benefits from - and responsibilities to - society (when possible), is the best approach. Cheers, Scott. |
Sullivan defends Eich.
- (mmoffitt)
- (80)
- April 7, 2014, 11:04:07 AM EDT
Awww
- (crazy)
- (66)
- April 7, 2014, 11:56:23 AM EDT
Here's a geniune gay perspective for you.
- (mmoffitt)
- (65)
- April 7, 2014, 01:29:51 PM EDT
I'm reminded of a certain Anatole France quote...
- (Another Scott)
- April 7, 2014, 01:31:21 PM EDT
Bull****
- (drook)
- (63)
- April 7, 2014, 01:32:37 PM EDT
Both result in children, then?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (62)
- April 7, 2014, 01:38:36 PM EDT
Reproduction is not a requirement of marriage.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- (59)
- April 7, 2014, 01:45:19 PM EDT
Not the point I was addressing.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 7, 2014, 02:58:04 PM EDT
Related: USSC declines review of photography case.
- (mmoffitt)
- (57)
- April 7, 2014, 03:54:24 PM EDT
ahh, so sad
- (crazy)
- (56)
- April 7, 2014, 04:58:52 PM EDT
HA!
- (mmoffitt)
- (55)
- April 8, 2014, 08:11:52 AM EDT
Re: HA!
- (Another Scott)
- (7)
- April 8, 2014, 08:18:01 AM EDT
But in no species does it result in a next generation. HTH.
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- (6)
- April 8, 2014, 09:52:15 AM EDT
Evolution is driven by genes, not individuals.
- (Another Scott)
- (5)
- April 8, 2014, 10:33:11 AM EDT
Wow. Really?
- (mmoffitt)
- (4)
- April 8, 2014, 12:02:03 PM EDT
If they're not passed on, why do they exist?
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- April 8, 2014, 12:23:14 PM EDT
We're past each other. But, I'll answer.
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- April 8, 2014, 01:12:59 PM EDT
Yeah, we're talking past each other.
- (Another Scott)
- April 8, 2014, 02:03:51 PM EDT
howsabout gay male help tend the fire so orc and ug
- (boxley)
- April 9, 2014, 08:55:15 PM EDT
So what?
- (pwhysall)
- (46)
- April 8, 2014, 05:42:46 PM EDT
Not at all!
- (mmoffitt)
- (45)
- April 9, 2014, 08:36:37 AM EDT
You miss the point in grand style.
- (pwhysall)
- (16)
- April 9, 2014, 10:54:27 AM EDT
This has confused me since I was 12.
- (mmoffitt)
- (11)
- April 9, 2014, 11:31:04 AM EDT
Taxes and legal rights.
- (malraux)
- (8)
- April 9, 2014, 11:51:56 AM EDT
And how about ...
- (drook)
- April 9, 2014, 11:55:51 AM EDT
Don't know about you, but our taxes went up.
- (mmoffitt)
- (6)
- April 9, 2014, 12:45:03 PM EDT
Oh, right.
- (malraux)
- (5)
- April 9, 2014, 02:41:06 PM EDT
Bryce is the reason?
- (pwhysall)
- April 9, 2014, 03:16:51 PM EDT
Name calling?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 04:12:08 PM EDT
"No objection"?!?
- (Another Scott)
- (2)
- April 9, 2014, 04:40:17 PM EDT
Maybe one of my posts?
- (mmoffitt)
- (1)
- April 9, 2014, 04:45:58 PM EDT
Doesn't matter
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 04:56:44 PM EDT
Cornerstone cultural significance
- (crazy)
- (1)
- April 9, 2014, 12:20:38 PM EDT
Heh.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 9, 2014, 12:46:48 PM EDT
You know what I find funny?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 12:55:45 PM EDT
Ahh, default priviledge
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 01:00:27 PM EDT
That's because you're the default.
- (pwhysall)
- April 9, 2014, 03:08:59 PM EDT
Brendan Fraser movie "School Ties"
- (drook)
- April 9, 2014, 04:56:11 PM EDT
The law calls it "marriage"
- (drook)
- (26)
- April 9, 2014, 10:57:46 AM EDT
Then why isn't my mother called a father?
- (mmoffitt)
- (25)
- April 9, 2014, 11:33:53 AM EDT
Because she is the birth mother
- (drook)
- (24)
- April 9, 2014, 11:48:01 AM EDT
rofl.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 9, 2014, 12:10:18 PM EDT
Bzzzt. Two daughters. HTH.
- (mmoffitt)
- (22)
- April 9, 2014, 12:53:06 PM EDT
Maybe you sell yourself short. Maybe not.
- (crazy)
- (21)
- April 9, 2014, 01:26:25 PM EDT
ok
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 03:39:31 PM EDT
Interesting question.
- (mmoffitt)
- (19)
- April 9, 2014, 04:36:38 PM EDT
not what I asked
- (crazy)
- April 9, 2014, 04:53:32 PM EDT
What's wrong with adoption?
-NT
- (drook)
- (3)
- April 9, 2014, 04:59:00 PM EDT
game over
- (crazy)
- (2)
- April 9, 2014, 05:03:13 PM EDT
told ya
- (crazy)
- April 10, 2014, 06:43:16 PM EDT
double post - slow iwethey
- (crazy)
- April 10, 2014, 06:45:24 PM EDT
Hmmm...
- (hnick)
- (11)
- April 9, 2014, 06:55:26 PM EDT
Mine doesn't really vary much.
- (mmoffitt)
- (10)
- April 10, 2014, 02:35:10 PM EDT
Call it a flapjack for all of mine...
- (hnick)
- (2)
- April 10, 2014, 08:02:46 PM EDT
Well said.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 10, 2014, 08:45:26 PM EDT
Then we agree, I think.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 11, 2014, 09:30:51 AM EDT
You keep asking this question.
- (pwhysall)
- (6)
- April 11, 2014, 03:55:09 AM EDT
Hmmm...
- (mmoffitt)
- (5)
- April 11, 2014, 09:46:54 AM EDT
A few things...
- (Another Scott)
- (4)
- April 11, 2014, 10:17:48 AM EDT
How can we agree?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 11, 2014, 12:55:23 PM EDT
That nitpick is 34,200,00 HTH.
-NT
- (folkert)
- (2)
- April 11, 2014, 01:03:37 PM EDT
The nits, they must be picked!
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- April 11, 2014, 02:57:10 PM EDT
Math is not your strong suit is it? But, no matter. ;0)
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- April 12, 2014, 08:43:09 PM EDT
Your objection to, 'taking sex-orientation as any big deal'
- (Ashton)
- (1)
- April 10, 2014, 06:08:10 AM EDT
I hate to admit it, but you're right.
- (mmoffitt)
- April 10, 2014, 02:11:53 PM EDT
Hmm...
- (Another Scott)
- April 9, 2014, 10:59:07 AM EDT
Why do you need the government to recognize that difference?
-NT
- (drook)
- (1)
- April 7, 2014, 01:59:15 PM EDT
Why do you need the government to say there isn't one?
-NT
- (mmoffitt)
- April 7, 2014, 02:58:56 PM EDT
Hehe
- (pwhysall)
- (1)
- April 7, 2014, 01:02:59 PM EDT
Good summary.
-NT
- (static)
- April 7, 2014, 08:38:16 PM EDT
TBogg's take.
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- April 8, 2014, 08:15:41 AM EDT
And a gay man responds.
- (mmoffitt)
- (2)
- April 8, 2014, 09:54:22 AM EDT
Oh, bollocks
- (pwhysall)
- April 8, 2014, 05:44:59 PM EDT
Meanwhile, in other controversial areas:
- (Ashton)
- April 8, 2014, 08:19:04 PM EDT
nicely countered
- (crazy)
- (6)
- April 17, 2014, 12:26:22 PM EDT
Reminds me of this
- (drook)
- April 17, 2014, 12:56:23 PM EDT
Counter to what?
- (mmoffitt)
- (3)
- April 17, 2014, 02:32:08 PM EDT
Of course
- (drook)
- (1)
- April 17, 2014, 03:00:21 PM EDT
But, you forgot "the sign". :)
-NT
- (a6l6e6x)
- April 17, 2014, 05:06:03 PM EDT
There's also a 'fore-runner' Issue: 'DINK's. Way-back.
- (Ashton)
- April 18, 2014, 03:15:25 AM EDT
sic the Official SpokesGay on them
- (boxley)
- April 17, 2014, 08:05:03 PM EDT