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New NASA re our probable 'Future'--UK non-histrionic take
http://www.theguardi...-study-scientists


Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?
Natural and social scientists develop new model of how 'perfect storm' of crises could unravel global system

new study sponsored by Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center has highlighted the prospect that global industrial civilisation could collapse in coming decades due to unsustainable resource exploitation and increasingly unequal wealth distribution.

Noting that warnings of 'collapse' are often seen to be fringe or controversial, the study attempts to make sense of compelling historical data showing that "the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history." Cases of severe civilisational disruption due to "precipitous collapse - often lasting centuries - have been quite common."

The research project is based on a new cross-disciplinary 'Human And Nature DYnamical' (HANDY) model, led by applied mathematician Safa Motesharri of the US National Science Foundation-supported National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center, in association with a team of natural and social scientists. The study based on the HANDY model has been accepted for publication in the peer-reviewed Elsevier journal, Ecological Economics.

It finds that according to the historical record even advanced, complex civilisations are susceptible to collapse, raising questions about the sustainability of modern civilisation:

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Ummm.. Have a Nice transitory--- Day.

So much for ... the Greedheads' Master-plan of founding some new Dynasties via their rich-spawn; in the immortal words of a familiar pianist/composer/singer: https://www.youtube....tch?v=frAEmhqdLFs



New take out 9 usain substations, the right ones
no juice for 18 months. We would be in the stone age by then
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
New There are some hard decisions coming.
And by "hard", I mean "fundamentally life-altering for millions if not billions of people".

And that's the good alternative.

The rugged individualism and economic freedom most singularly espoused by the USA and aspired to by much of the free world will, I think, prove to be a historical anomaly. In order to sustain billions of people, much more control will be required - from energy production to waste management to pollution restrictions.

No, you cannot have a petrol car. No, you cannot leave your AC running in 40 degree C heat all day and all night - you must either move to a house that is naturally cooled, or get sweaty. No, you cannot blindly landfill all your rubbish - you must recycle, and you must recycle 10x as much as you presently do. No, UK Government, you cannot build more coal power stations; you must generate electricity using carbon-neutral methods. Yes, EU, you must develop low-temperature fusion reactors, and yes, EU, you will have to spend many hundreds of billions to do so.

Energy is the key. Once you have cheap energy, you can do things like cracking seawater for hydrogen-powered fuel-cell cars, and you can indulge in energy-intensive activities like super-clean recycling plants for everything from paper to cars to computers.

Of course, those on the Right will deny all this, but seriously - fuck those guys.
New Preach it, brother!
(Wear a cool mult-coloured kevlar vest: there will be those arrows.)
New Just 40 more years
I just want to keep over-consuming energy and enjoying my modern bonbons for forty more years, forty-five at the outside. Then I'll stop, I promise. Can't we hold it together that long?
New We've probably got some time beyond that.
https://www.youtube....tch?v=izQB2-Kmiic (3:24) (SFW). (One of my favorite songs as a kid.)

Of course, the folks in northern Canada and Tierra Del Fuego may be about the only ones around if we're not careful. :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Not to worry . . .
Antarctica will have palm trees again.

Side note:   Marsupials ruled South America (well, except for 12 foot high flightless, and very carnivorous, Terror Birds). One species managed to migrate across Antarctica (not so cold then and still attached to South America). A few of these possums apparently rafted across a narrow channel of water to Australia, which had already separated from Antarctica. Kangaroos and all the rest of the marsupials in Australia are descended from this one species of possum.
     NASA re our probable 'Future'--UK non-histrionic take - (Ashton) - (6)
         take out 9 usain substations, the right ones - (boxley)
         There are some hard decisions coming. - (pwhysall) - (1)
             Preach it, brother! - (Ashton)
         Just 40 more years - (gcareaga) - (2)
             We've probably got some time beyond that. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Not to worry . . . - (Andrew Grygus)

That would be like Scott taking the Wal*Mart cruise.
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