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Post #387,341 by Andrew Grygus 3/7/14 2:08:04 PM Reply	Russian yes, Tatar no. Most Ukranians can read Russian well enough - but - according to Box, Tatars have no standing - Crimea rightly belongs to Russia. I'm not willing to accept his argument as coherent until he admits that Native Americans have no legitimate claim to any part of North America. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Russia has a history of evicting native populations without compensation of any kind and replaced them with Russians. Most notably the Circasians, shipped to Turkey (with about 40% mortality in transit) under the Tzars, and Tatars and others under the Communists.
Post #387,343 by mmoffitt 3/7/14 2:14:20 PM Reply	Re: Most Ukranians can read Russian well enough There's a very good reason for that, especially among those at least in their late 40's or 50's. I went to school in Kiev for 4th class. We had a course in Russian as our mother tongue and we had a course in Ukranian as a foreign language. Not too dissimilar from having young Hispanic kids take English as their primary language course and Spanish as their foreign language course in your neck of the woods. ;0)
Post #387,344 by boxley 3/7/14 2:19:14 PM Reply	Tartars have standing to the extent that their protected status us recognized. They didn't like siberia and want to go home. I'm not sure of whether their wish to be part of a stand alone country Crimea, Part of a Ukraine who wants to expel all russian speakers (does that include tatars?) and at the very least will keep all of the eastern folks subjugated to the whims of Kiev or a russian vassal state? Im sure the last is not what any of the folks there really want, russian or not. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep

Referendum in Crimea vote moved to 3/16. - (mmoffitt) - (45) - March 6, 2014, 10:16:48 AM EST

Yeah, and what could possibly go wrong? - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - March 6, 2014, 10:44:46 AM EST

And visits to ensure everyone exercises his voting rights. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 6, 2014, 11:24:23 AM EST

Russian yes, Tatar no. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - March 7, 2014, 02:08:04 PM EST

Re: Most Ukranians can read Russian well enough - (mmoffitt) - March 7, 2014, 02:14:20 PM EST

Tartars have standing to the extent that their protected - (boxley) - March 7, 2014, 02:19:14 PM EST

EU no likey. Warns of sanctions. - (Another Scott) - (22) - March 6, 2014, 12:20:48 PM EST

EU likes to stay warm in winter -NT - (boxley) - (21) - March 6, 2014, 01:54:07 PM EST

Spring is coming. - (Another Scott) - (20) - March 6, 2014, 02:06:46 PM EST

That's good. - (mmoffitt) - March 6, 2014, 02:31:25 PM EST

nah, he's keeping it - (crazy) - March 6, 2014, 03:22:20 PM EST

clear, levelheaded understanding of the issues - (boxley) - (17) - March 6, 2014, 03:54:02 PM EST

Thanks, but meh. - (Another Scott) - (12) - March 6, 2014, 05:07:32 PM EST

what you have there is Kurds and Arabs for an anology - (boxley) - (11) - March 6, 2014, 05:19:47 PM EST

It's the Russians who are refusing to talk at the moment. -NT - (Another Scott) - (10) - March 6, 2014, 07:14:02 PM EST

hardly, an agreement was reached and signed - (boxley) - (9) - March 6, 2014, 08:06:14 PM EST

Meh. - (Another Scott) - (8) - March 6, 2014, 08:35:05 PM EST

see you a Meh and raise you a feh :-) - (boxley) - (7) - March 6, 2014, 09:18:40 PM EST

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (6) - March 6, 2014, 09:49:13 PM EST

the other people in the other square, likewise - (boxley) - (5) - March 6, 2014, 10:13:54 PM EST

Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 6, 2014, 10:56:58 PM EST

well it is a legitimately elected government there - (boxley) - (3) - March 6, 2014, 10:31:29 PM EST

According to the agreement, Russian troops were limited. - (Another Scott) - March 6, 2014, 11:03:01 PM EST

Re:Nit Russia did not invade - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - March 6, 2014, 11:05:24 PM EST

you have to take last centuries turmoil into consideration - (boxley) - March 6, 2014, 11:14:44 PM EST

Oversimplification. - (a6l6e6x) - (3) - March 6, 2014, 05:56:15 PM EST

te Zaporozhye Cossacks prefer? hint they used to sack poland -NT - (boxley) - (2) - March 6, 2014, 07:04:32 PM EST

Bull. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - March 7, 2014, 12:51:14 AM EST

sorry my historical references are impeccable :-) - (boxley) - March 7, 2014, 01:42:55 AM EST

I see no good options from here - (rcareaga) - (1) - March 6, 2014, 06:07:57 PM EST

Yes, that Kerry line seemed scripted for a rebirth of - (Ashton) - March 7, 2014, 04:48:32 AM EST

Yes, or Yes? - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 8, 2014, 04:10:38 PM EST

Do I espy some new Repo election rules.. from the House? -NT - (Ashton) - March 8, 2014, 05:52:05 PM EST

Ha! A good old fashioned Soviet ballot! -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 8, 2014, 11:09:15 PM EST

Digital Globe photos of Russian forces massing. - (Another Scott) - (11) - April 11, 2014, 08:09:37 AM EDT

Nice! - (folkert) - (7) - April 11, 2014, 09:42:29 AM EDT

:) - (Steve Lowe) - (6) - April 12, 2014, 12:48:14 AM EDT

10-15 cm resolution on a good day? - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 12, 2014, 07:31:54 AM EDT

Re: 10-15 cm resolution on a good day? - (Steve Lowe) - (3) - April 13, 2014, 12:17:25 PM EDT

Interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - April 13, 2014, 12:32:39 PM EDT

Can hardly wait for the infant-implants.. Next-gen, - (Ashton) - April 14, 2014, 04:50:13 AM EDT

#1358 - (Another Scott) - April 21, 2014, 01:21:32 PM EDT

Untraceable hearsay of course, but the quip re Hubble optics - (Ashton) - April 14, 2014, 05:24:31 AM EDT

About time some of our Spook-techno gets used - (Ashton) - April 11, 2014, 11:03:26 PM EDT

Re: Digital Globe photos of Russian forces massing. - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - April 12, 2014, 12:51:11 AM EDT

:-) You folks are doing a great job. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - April 12, 2014, 07:21:44 AM EDT

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