I don't think flowers and cakes for weddings rise that high.

Post #386,754 by mmoffitt 2/24/14 12:44:06 PM Reply	I don't think flowers and cakes for weddings rise that high. I mean, just step back a few thousand paces. Do we really want a society that has federal lawsuits over cakes and flowers for weddings? The florist, at least, was apparently NOT treating the gay couple any differently ("long time customers") until asked to provide flowers for a wedding. If that's all it takes to rise to the level of a federal lawsuit, $DEITY help us.
Post #386,756 by malraux 2/24/14 12:49:49 PM Reply	So it's a different in magnitude, not kind? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #386,760 by mmoffitt 2/24/14 1:01:12 PM Reply	I don't think so. "I don't want to make your wedding cake" and "I don't want to supply flowers for your wedding" are not equivalent, imo, to discrimination against the individuals. Particularly in light of the fact that (at least as concerns the florist) the couple in question could purchase flowers for any other reason. If its discrimination of any sort, it is discrimination against same-sex weddings, not homosexuality per se. I just cannot see that rising to a civil rights trespass.
Post #386,792 by folkert 2/24/14 5:02:54 PM Reply	If they stick to the... If the "vendors" stick to the "I don't want to make your wedding cake" and "I don't want to supply flowers for your wedding" and completely hold their tongue at that, I've really got really ZERO PROBLEM WITH THAT As soon as they trot that "additional part" -- "because you are Gay/Lesbian/Black/Inuit/Chinese/1912-Baptist-Reform/Muslim" THAT is when we gots problems. Learn to bite your tongue and you can be a closet case of Anti-something all you want. Keep your ignorance to your self. -- greg@gregfolkert.net "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #386,797 by drook 2/24/14 6:20:13 PM Reply	You mean ... You can hold whatever homophobic views you want, just don't keep shoving it my face? :-D -- Drew
Post #386,799 by folkert 2/24/14 6:47:20 PM Reply	Yes... But the simplified version wasn't clear enough. I wanted to be somewhat explicit. -- greg@gregfolkert.net "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #386,825 by mmoffitt 2/25/14 8:17:02 AM Reply	The baker may have. A lesbian couple went to Sweet Cakes, a Gresham, Ore., bakery Jan. 17 to order their wedding cake, but said they were told the bakery didn't serve same-sex marriages. http://abcnews.go.co...story?id=18922065
Post #386,830 by folkert 2/25/14 9:00:26 AM Reply	These people are ignorant fools. Keep your racial/homo/religio phobias to yourself and wallow in your self-righteousness all by your lonesome. If you serve the public... and are not a closed resource... you get to follow the public laws. What are we... in the 50s where only whites get to sit at the counter? -- greg@gregfolkert.net "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." --Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
Post #386,812 by malraux 2/24/14 8:59:13 PM Reply	Hmm, nope. If its discrimination of any sort, it is discrimination against same-sex weddings, not homosexuality per se. The proprietor also stated he would not be willing to sell a cake to a gay couple that wanted a civil union or a commitment ceremony, either. At that point it's quite obvious the problem is with homosexuality and not just same-sex marriage, as from a religious standpoint there's no "marriage" involved in either of those two cases. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.

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