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New Some Euro prognoses.. about as shiny as here
http://www.dailykos....rope?detail=email

The pitchforks are coming out in Europe

Not just Greece, usual suspects: Italy.. mobs seeking military junta..
Bulgaria.. about at Weimar Republic level--just prior to Nazi accession..


From Denmark to Greece the right-wing is on the rise in Europe. There is even a pan-European alliance of far-right groups. Their common goal (other than being anti-immigrant)? To break up the EU.
Much like the 1920's and 30's, Europe is drifting to the extreme right because the center-left can't find the political will to stand up to the multi-national financiers nor the political courage to admit being wrong about the EU.



Last time, Berlin in ruins. Fast Forward-->German Financiers in cat-bird seat/many others in steerage.
Oh well ... Easy-come, easy-
Secession ... ... can they manage that any better than we (still haven't) ??

H-H-Happy Brave New Year.

New It's a bit chicken-littlish.
Yes, the far right exists and yes, they have representation.

But no, they don't have effective policy influence and no, they don't have broad grass-roots appeal.

We should keep an eye on them, because they have a propensity for doing unpleasant things to people for very wrong reasons, but we shouldn't give them too much thinktime in our brainmeats.
New It's good that people are keeping an eye on them...
I haven't kept up with it lately, but the changes in Hungary since the 2009-2010 wins by Fidesz have been disconcerting to say the least.

http://krugman.blogs...es.com/?s=hungary - especially http://krugman.blogs...f-amendment/?_r=0

Here's Wikipedia on Fidesz - http://en.wikipedia....ki/Fidesz#History

The party was founded in 1988, named simply Fidesz (Fiatal Demokraták Szövetsége, meaning the Alliance of Young Democrats), originally as a youthful libertarian, anti-communist party. Fidesz was founded by young democrats, mainly students, who were persecuted by the communist party and had to meet in small, clandestine groups.

[...]

After its disappointing result in the 1994 elections, Fidesz changed its political position from liberal to conservative.[11][14] In 1995, it added "Hungarian Civic Party" (Magyar Polgári Párt) to its shortened name. The conservative turn caused a severe split in the membership. Péter Molnár left the party, as well as Gábor Fodor and Klára Ungár, who joined the liberal Alliance of Free Democrats.

Fidesz gained power in 1998 under leader and Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who governed Hungary in coalition with the smaller Hungarian Democratic Forum and the Independent Smallholders' Party. In 2000, Fidesz joined the European People's Party and had its membership in the Liberal International terminated.[14]

[...]

In the 2009 European Parliament election, Fidesz won a landslide victory, gaining 56.36% of the vote and 14 of Hungary's 22 seats. This predicted a landslide in the 2010 parliamentary elections, where they won the outright majority in the first round on April 11, with the Fidesz-KDNP alliance winning 206 seats, including 119 individual seats. In the final result, they won 263 seats, of which 173 are individual seats.[18] Fidesz holds 227 of these seats, giving it an outright majority in the National Assembly by itself.

After winning 53% of the popular vote, which translated into a supermajority of 68% of parliamentary seats, giving Fidesz sufficient power to revise or replace the constitution, the party embarked on an extraordinary project of passing over 200 laws and drafting and adopting a new constitution—since followed by nearly 2000 amendments.

The new constitution has been widely criticized[19][20][21][22][23][24] by the Venice Commission for Democracy through Law,[25] the Council of Europe, the European Parliament[26] and the United States[27] for gathering too much power in the hands of the ruling party, Fidesz, for limiting oversight of the new constitution by the Constitutional Court of Hungary, and for removing democratic checks and balances in various areas, including the ordinary judiciary,[28] supervision of elections and the media.


(Emphasis added.) Hmm...

People who voted for them should take time out to visit http://www.terrorhaza.hu/en/index_2.html

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Only if you limit far right to explicit neo-Nazis
The ones who espouse very similar ideas but wear suits have quite a bit more sway. In Belgium, they have enough support to tangle politics at the national level. In Fraqnce, Le Pen came within inches of the presidency. In the Netherlands, even though it comes in a peculiar form of populism, both Fortuyn and Wilders had enough influence to steer national level politics as well. In Italy, the resurrected fascist party has been part of almost all Berlusconi governments.

The only limiting factor on most of these is that they tend to be personal cults. I.e. if the leader quits or falls in disgrace, they tend to crumble.
     Some Euro prognoses.. about as shiny as here - (Ashton) - (3)
         It's a bit chicken-littlish. - (pwhysall) - (2)
             It's good that people are keeping an eye on them... - (Another Scott)
             Only if you limit far right to explicit neo-Nazis - (scoenye)

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