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New Movie: The Dish.
First a small disclaimer:

Every grown man has a couple phrases that, when heard, will cause him to bawl like a baby. Most men seem to take phrases like "we're all out of beer," or "hey, is that your ferrari being towed?" but for me, it's phrases like "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed" and "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." Just the sight of a Saturn V taking off can bring tears to my eyes. Hell, even that overgrown monument to bureaucratic inefficiency, the space shuttle, still causes me to mist up a bit. So, when it comes to movies about space, I'm a little bit biased. That having been said, here's the review.

In 1969, the Parkes Radio Telescope in Australia was part of the worldwide network of transmission dishes that brought back radio and television images from the Apollo 11 mission. Basically it's a story about the guys manning the telescope, and how they handle events, both mission-related and personal in the days leading up to the moon landing. It also follows events in small-town Parkes as it is visited both by the U.S. Ambassador and the Prime Minister. No comment on the accuracy of the aussie accent - the only example I have to hold them up against is Paul "Croc Dundee" Hogan. I think almost the entire cast is native, though, with the exception of Sam Neil as the guy in charge of the radio telescope, and the liason from NASA. I also don't know how historically accurate the film is either, but hey, it's a good slow film, treats it's subject matter with respect, and doesn't take itself too seriously.

Thane sez thumbs up.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New Yep, Australian actors
Still haven't seen this film, but yep I believe the cast is mostly Australian, so the accents should be 'genuine'. Still don't think anyone's pulled off a proper Autralian accent impression. But hey, Karsten can get pretty close :)


On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New To an endorsement of a sorts.
"The Dish" was made in Australia by the same crew who made [link|http://us.imdb.com/Title?0118826|"The Castle"]*, which is an extremely Australian film that the average USians will probably find rather puzzling. Both had a good complement of Aussie actors who have been in many other things before and since**.

Wade.

* searching IMDB, I didn't realize there were so many movies with that title...

** well, I'll be! "The Castle" also starred one Anthony Simcoe whose name I know some of you will recognise. Yep: Ka D'argo in Farscape. I never knew that before tonight.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

Expand Edited by static May 13, 2002, 06:34:49 AM EDT
New I think Sam Neill (sp?) is a New Zealander

I could be wrong, though. However, I remember the previews for this film and really wanted to see it but it must have left the theaters about fifteen minutes after it opened.

Is it available for rental?

Tom Sinclair
"Subverting Young Minds Since 03/13/2000"
New I'm sure it is...
...you just need to find a video store that stocks it.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New He's from Ireland.
[link|http://us.imdb.com/Name?Neill,+Sam|At least, he was born there, according to the IMDB.]
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
New But click the "(show more)" link, and you...
...will be taken to this "[link|http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Neill,+Sam|Mini biography"]:
Born in Northern Ireland to army parents, his family returned to the South Island of New Zealand in 1954. [...] worked with the New Zealand Players and other theater groups. He also was a film director, editor and scriptwriter for the New Zealand National Film Unit for 6 years. His first feature film was Sleeping Dogs (1977). He then moved to Australia and [...]
So he moved -- or rather, "was moved" -- "home" to New Zealand in '54, at ~seven years of age, and moved from there to Australia some time in the '77 - '79 timeframe, when he would have been around thirty. (Shortly after that, he moved to Britain, and then "moved back to Australia in the late 1980s").

I'd say that makes him pretty definitely a New Zealander, since that is where he spent his formative years; and secondarily, if anything, apparently an Aussie. (Then again, perhaps Aussies and Kiwis alike are all "secondarily" Brits anyway?)

Commenting on Neill as an actor, let me add: IMDB quotes his 'Biography from Leonard Maltin's Movie Encyclopedia' - "If Neill is still not quite "star material," there is no question of his status among the best, and most versatile, actors working today." Huh?!? And this doesn't tell them that there's something wrong with how they determine what is 'star material'? Aren't these 'stars' supposed to be 'star' *actors* in the frigging first place?!? 'Far as I'm concerned, Sam Neill *is* a bloody 'star' -- much more so, than most vacuous pretty-face Hollyweird creatures!

One of his earliest performances that I saw: [link|http://us.imdb.com/Title?0084157|Ivanhoe (1982)], a "breakthrough" for me personally in that it may have been the first fiml I saw -- at least, it's the first I definitely remember -- where "the villain" (Neill plays the ambivalent but mostly 'evil' Templar knight Brian de Bois-Guilbert) steals the show. (Together with James Mason, who -- perhaps not-so-coincidentally? -- was, according to IMDB, instrumental in bringing Neill to Britain and thus probably furthered his career a good deal.)
   Christian R. Conrad
Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
New That's what I get for...
...just doing a drive-by linking. :/

He is one of those rare individuals that I enjoy seeing on the screen - and wouldn't mind seeing a bit more, as long as he stays out of those trashy flics like Jurrassic Park 3...

Hurrrghkl - (Besides, my wife got it without me knowing about it - not my fault...)
InThane - Now running Ashton rev 2.0
New Didn't see JP3; intentionally, feronce. Recommend: Dead Calm
New Starred in a PBS series here -'Reilly the Ace of Spies'.
By 'here' = where I saw it; no doubt made in Europe, well away from the sounds of LA freeways.

Virtuoso shenanigans throughout; one would have to invoke the reviewer cliche of "a nuanced performance" - to understate it. You must have seen that - just too good not to have been spread around, maybe with subtitles in Hungarian too.

And yeah.. the 'sex object' "Star" requirement appears to have bitten the movie folks full on the [buffed, naked maybe bony] asses of the male pretty-boys du jour. Now perhaps they can begin to see what it was like for females with brains, all along (who also happened to have bodies).



(Nahhh - that thought won't enter their pretty-little Heads any time soon)



Ashton
whatever happened to real Stars -?- perhaps the same thing as to -- 'Statesmen'?
New IMDB: Euston Films 1983-I was going to say, "Never saw it...
...but that other thing, where he was in Russia, was great." -- but, judging from the Russian-sounding character names of everybody in [link|http://us.imdb.com/Details?0085077|"Reilly"] was that thing where he was in Russia! Yup, that must be the one I'm remembering -- I remember that it was set some time around the turn of the century, and the one on IMDB has Felix Dzerzhinsky in it, I see...

Unfortunately, it's so long ago since I saw that series (198X, where X<=7?), I can't remember what all it was about -- except a vague recollection that yes, it was great, and yes, Sam Neill was darn good in it.

Also, I've been deformed by having seen that otherwise crappy version of Ivanhoe far too many times -- Swedish state television corrupted their tradition of showing Ivanhoe on New Year's Day afternoon every bloody year, by switching to this version when it came out. Because it was in garish technicolour, I guess, and black-and-white felt so old in the early eighties... As if that could ever beat the [link|http://us.imdb.com/Details?0044760|1952 version] in the long run! That version had not only Liz Taylor as the Jewess-accused-of-witchcraft, Rebecca (can't remember what Joan Fontaine looked like as lady Rowena, but she can't have been as insipid-looking[*] as that porcelain-doll-looking wuss with her anime-figure-eyes in the 1982 version), but it had "I choose the axe" vs "I choose the mace and dagger"[**] for the big final fight (Rebecca's trial-by-arms) between Ivanhoe and de Bois-Guilbert! WTF is colour against *that*, I ask you???




[*]: Which Scott EXPLICITLY SAYS in the novel, she was not -- "lacking any insipidity", IIRC -- but that was really the SINGLE MOST DISTINGUISHING charcteristic of Lysette Anthony, anno 1982 ([link|http://us.imdb.com/Name?Anthony,+Lysette|IMDB], [link|http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Anthony,+Lysette|bio], [link|http://us.imdb.com/EGallery?source=granitz&group=0416-caa&photo=anthonyl.yse&path=pgallery&path_key=Anthony,+Lysette|photo]). Likewise for [link|http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Andrews,+Anthony|Anthony Andrews] in the title role; this "Blond British heartthrob" (Maltin) was really much better cast as the relatively poncy [link|http://us.imdb.com/Details?0084637|"Scarlet Pimpernel"] or, even more so, the all-out raving poofter Sebastian Flyte in [link|http://us.imdb.com/Details?0083390|"Brideshead Revisited"]. Feh -- no axe for him, oh no sirree!

[**]: And lovely sheet-metal shields that went "Bloinggg" and got all crumpled up as they pounded away on them with their axe and mace! Who cares about historically-correct wooden backing for non-crumpling shields, when all they whack them with are puny swords? Gimme an axe against a mace any day!
   Christian R. Conrad
Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
New Heh.. in good form today!________ :-\ufffd
Concur re the poofter performance in Brideshead. Gawd the ... angst :( ennui :( :( irrelevance >|< of Brit [or any?] upper-classes in full deshabille, making mere tawdry Existentialism seem.. not even Half the Truth for homo-saps with more money than brains... but always in fine Suits.











Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments
Love is not love which alters where it alteration finds
Or bends with the remover to remove - - -
New A truer word you never said, friend Ashton...
..."homo saps", indeed! :-)


(Heck, don't they have any "Bubba the Biker" types in Albion, or what?)
   Christian R. Conrad
Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower.
-- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
New {danke} ..as we get to choose our own Biker Nirvana
(If I read the EULA correctly ;-)

Maybe I'll have an immaculate Vincent Series C Black Lightning, slightly modified for 0-Mach 3 in 6 seconds. (OK OK -- just for the infantile first few thousand Terran-years!) of fun with breaking the physics laws before breakfast of Eggs Benedict with Sophia, Mozart, Liz at 17 - with the Berlin Phil. violin, brass sections accompanying.

Maybe J.B. Arban (closest I could morph to Albion) for the occasional Variations on a Theme from Norma on cornet, after which he could join us for a soiree ... with the Chateau d'Yqem '61 flowing like golden water over crystalline non-ice cubes {sigh}





Well.. beats the Infinite Mall one, don't it? :-\ufffd








Brahma opens his eyes - a Universe appears.
Closes eyes - a Universe disappears.


We cuthless ones will settle for a more limited capability..
New Here's mine
We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to \ufffdtouch the faceof God."

Reagan's speech:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd planned to speak to you tonight to report on the state of the Union, but the events of earlier today have led me to change those plans. Today is a day for mourning and remembering. Nancy and I are pained to the core by the tragedy of the shuttle Challenger. We know we share this pain with all of the people of our country. This is truly a national loss.

Nineteen years ago, almost to the day, we lost three astronauts in a terrible accident on the ground. But we've never lost an astronaut in flight; we've never had a tragedy like this. And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took for the crew of the shuttle. But they, the Challenger Seven, were aware of the dangers, overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. We mourn seven heroes: Michael Smith, Dick Scobee, Judith Resnik, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. We mourn their loss as a nation together.

[To] the families of the seven: we cannot bear, as you do, the full impact of this tragedy. But we feel the loss, and we're thinking about you so very much. Your loved ones were daring and brave, and they had that special grace, that special spirit that says, "Give me a challenge, and I'll meet it with joy." They had a hunger to explore the universe and discover its truths. They wished to serve, and they did. They served all of us. We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for 25 years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers.

And I want to say something to the schoolchildren of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.

I've always had great faith in and respect for our space program, and what happened today does nothing to diminish it. We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute. We'll continue our quest in space. There will be more shuttle flights and more shuttle crews and, yes, more volunteers, more civilians, more teachers in space. Nothing ends here; our hopes and our journeys continue. I want to add that I wish I could talk to every man and woman who works for NASA or who worked on this mission and tell them: "\ufffdYour dedication and professionalism have moved an impressed us for decades. And we know of your anguish. We share it. "

There' s a coincidence today. On this day 390 years ago, the great explorer Sir Francis Drake died aboard ship off the coast of Panama. In his lifetime the great frontiers were the oceans, and an historian later said, "\ufffdHe livedby the sea, died on it, and was buried in it." Well today we can say of the Challenger crew: Their dedication was, like Drake's, complete.

The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honored us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to \ufffdtouch the faceof God."

Thank you.


(The original poem by John Magee):

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies
on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I\ufffdve climbed,
and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred
things
You have not dreamed of
- wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov\ufffdring there,
I\ufffdve chased the shouting wind along,
and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I\ufffdve topped the wind-swept heights
with easy grace,
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -And,
while with silent, lifting mind I\ufffdve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

New Credit where due..
Believe it was Peggy Noonan's (?) work he read. Not to take away from his decades of eloquent rereading of the work of others, charged with keeping the appearance of sentience ... somewhat alive.

We settle for so little, in our 'Heroes' du jour..
     Movie: The Dish. - (inthane-chan) - (15)
         Yep, Australian actors - (Meerkat) - (1)
             To an endorsement of a sorts. - (static)
         I think Sam Neill (sp?) is a New Zealander - (tjsinclair) - (10)
             I'm sure it is... - (inthane-chan)
             He's from Ireland. - (inthane-chan) - (8)
                 But click the "(show more)" link, and you... - (CRConrad) - (7)
                     That's what I get for... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                         Didn't see JP3; intentionally, feronce. Recommend: Dead Calm -NT - (CRConrad)
                     Starred in a PBS series here -'Reilly the Ace of Spies'. - (Ashton) - (4)
                         IMDB: Euston Films 1983-I was going to say, "Never saw it... - (CRConrad) - (3)
                             Heh.. in good form today!________ :-\ufffd - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 A truer word you never said, friend Ashton... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     {danke} ..as we get to choose our own Biker Nirvana - (Ashton)
         Here's mine - (wharris2) - (1)
             Credit where due.. - (Ashton)

I liked Dragon Ball Z better; it didn't try as hard to be idiotic.
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