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[...] "Microsoft may yet manage to turn Windows tablets and phones into products with meaningful market share, but it will never be dominant again. "


http://ben-evans.com...ance-of-microsoft
New Sniff.... sniff.
I feel sorry, it has taken this long.

Maybe they can turn themselves around like they forced IBM to.

Edit: Slippery When Sarcastic!
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Expand Edited by folkert July 27, 2013, 12:07:38 PM EDT
New Won't happen
As much as I dislike mainframes, I respect them. Now think of every IT director who is locked into IBM who LOVES them. Big blue shops LIKE being blue.

That's a cash cow that isn't going away.

Add to that the Linux/Java push that took IBM like a storm 10+ years ago and reworked the company top to bottom, to the benefit of the clients.

Add to that the army of software consultants that IBM makes a huge amount of money with, and is constantly setting up vertical silos on their clients.

What's MS got? Windows, which is fighting a constant battle on all sides (remember the OS wars graphic from years ago, with battle lines, can't find it now), X-Box, which has zero business use, Exchange, which loses to gmail every time it goes head to head, and Office (word, excel, etc), which WILL be dominant for a few years to come, but is horizontal, and is being chipped away a bit at a time.

They've peaked. It's downhill for now on.



New Yes, I'm well aware.
Windows is flat. All sales of nearly everything they have is flat or declining sharply.

Microsoft missed the Mobile/Tablet wave... by going in the wrong direction in a slow heavy sail boat. They aren't even really in the same ocean all the cool and Uncool kids are in. Heck, they built their own ball park and refuse to play in it.

Microsoft was lucky with the Internet Wave... they also missed, but caught up mostly. Then, Paul Allen left, Steve Balmer took over and it has been nothing except riding on the inertia.

Sure they've had gobs of success... but they've had GOBS and GOBS of failure.

You are right, I can see the fork now. It is just a matter of how long it takes for the scavengers to tear it apart, once the cracks start and the wounds don't heal right.

I can only imagine the amount of good that might have been if Microsoft hadn't been such a "buy and drown" product killer. They'd be seriously diversified and maybe not quite as strong as they were at their peak, but they'd be much more healthy and robust.

Oh well, *MANY* people tried to tell them.
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New Re: Yes, I'm well aware.
They're pretty well diversified now, but it's not particularly consumer-facing.

El Reg has a story about what they're doing at the back-end.

http://www.theregist...ft_might_yet_win/
New Augmenting that view.. the seeds of its destruction, maybe
(from a link inside) is this 7-1-13 comment on the Whys of the TechNet murder.
http://www.theregist...ft_kills_technet/


Why you and I aren't really relevant at all
Microsoft can't win a fight to defend a monopoly position forever. All you need to do is look to Apple's halving of market share in the face of Android to understand that. It is simply bad business for Microsoft to continue to expend vast resources on placating the kinds of people for whom things like TechNet make a difference.

Microsoft is in no real hurry to bleed away market share – I'm sure their PR droids will be along soon to tell the world that Microsoft does indeed care about the fuzzy wuzzies and 'Why are you saying such mean things!' – but the reality is that if it is to survive it needs to set a bold vision and convince those with deep pockets that it is the way forward. That vision is the cloud, subscriptions, and driving margins up, not down.

The rest of us can follow – or not – as we choose. Microsoft ultimately doesn't care. Microsoft is in the process of shifting into an Oracle-like high-margin player. It wants fewer customers with bigger pockets and it isn't afraid of "drop off" suffered by the disenfranchised or the poor.

Make no mistake: this isn't an arrogance born out of a belief that it retains a monopoly on the desktop, the Office productivity suite, or the server market. It is a wholesale shift in approach in recognition of its loss of monopoly.

You don't matter to Microsoft and neither do I. We've known all known this for ages, but Microsoft has finally decided that they aren't going to even bother to fake it anymore. Now is the time for those of us who don't live "at scale" – and with budgets to match – to start looking farther afield, before we move from "customer" to "hostage". ®



which feeds back to this comment in linked article
[General topic here? W.T.F. Can 'we' do to hasten the departure of this 100% Greed-driven Troglodyte? For the cheeldrun? And for a joyous Worldwide Festival of Schadenfreude ... bigger than fussball.]



[. . .]
Microsoft's grand strategists didn't count on botching Windows 8 and Windows RT's community engagement so thoroughly that the backlash would drive users away from Metro-themed products instead of towards them.

Tactical initiatives are simply money grabs. Building userbases and exploiting short-term events to extract the maximum cash possible. Microsoft certainly has a proven track record of parting businesses and individuals from their money, but their tactics are increasingly leading to enmity. Poor tactical execution is limiting future strategic options.

[. . .]

In the past few years Microsoft has variously alienated large chunks of the systems administrator, SME, developer, power user/enthusiast, partner and office end-user communities. Worse, many of Microsoft's competitors were never populist organisations to begin with. These companies don't have a history of caring about their users' requirements. The leaves the error bars of successful interaction wider for them than they are for Microsoft; put simply, their user bases are more tolerant of mistakes.

[. . .]

The next 24 months is Microsoft's true window of vulnerability. If the wrong calls are made Microsoft's competitors will shred them. It will take a decade or so for Microsoft to die, but if there is a chance for a fatal wound it is now. If the right choices are made, however, Microsoft becomes functionally untouchable for the rest of our careers.



That is now run-up-the-flagpole, by definition.
Will. enough. salute. -??- O Interested toilers in the salt-mines of corporate misanthropy (and rm -r hda0.)

New OS Wars graphic..
Yeah, I'd like to see the latest update of that.. very unclear when it faded away and as usual: Google is No Use with a pile of distantly related crap.

If you should find it, please Tell.
Schadenfreude feels so Good--Die, Redmond kiddie-PCPorn-buggers.

Had I $1 for every hour wasted (even on my minimal demands of a relatively stable W-98) I could get new luggage for my Veyron..
New I think this was one of othe later ones.
http://www.vijayforv...oftware-wars/158/

Wade.
Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
New Was just gonna post that...
Looks like 2006.

http://www.mshiltonj.com/software_wars/
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New Thanks.. was looking for 'OS Wars'. Wrong.
Would be fun to see '11, '12', and Now.
Where's Vijay when we Need him?
New It is actually Mshiltonj...
Not Vijay.

If you look at the link I showed, it has the archived versions.
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New Re: It is actually Mshiltonj...
Ah.. but alas, while they say they might update ... sometime ...

Missing all today 's chances to draw Seppuku symbols / Samurai swords and such:
how could they Not-want to go Wild with the forked arrows?

Also, like the tornadoes.. methinks that FUD+patent footsie deserve icons. Do I see a contest here?
     The era of MS is OVER - (crazy) - (15)
         Yep, that's a lot of value to lose - (malraux) - (1)
             I just realized... - (folkert)
         National response? Why.. it's Schadenfruede Day! all year. -NT - (Ashton)
         Yep - (dmcarls) - (11)
             Sniff.... sniff. - (folkert) - (10)
                 Won't happen - (crazy) - (9)
                     Yes, I'm well aware. - (folkert) - (2)
                         Re: Yes, I'm well aware. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Augmenting that view.. the seeds of its destruction, maybe - (Ashton)
                     OS Wars graphic.. - (Ashton) - (5)
                         I think this was one of othe later ones. - (static) - (4)
                             Was just gonna post that... - (folkert)
                             Thanks.. was looking for 'OS Wars'. Wrong. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 It is actually Mshiltonj... - (folkert) - (1)
                                     Re: It is actually Mshiltonj... - (Ashton)

But if you call right now, you might get an appointment by then.
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