I'm sure they're not the only reason things got bad...

Post #37,755 by inthane-chan 5/7/02 10:15:37 AM Reply	I'm sure they're not the only reason things got bad... Quite frankly, the California state legislators were IMO criminally negligent, the Shrub administration didn't help things, and I'm certain that other companies were involved. I do hope that people look at those things as well. Still, it's nice to be somewhat vindicated after hearing all those people in other regions claiming that there was no corporate manipulation of the energy market... "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #37,781 by folkert 5/7/02 12:30:55 PM Reply	You is right, I was just pointing out... That when things are down, others tend to correlate things on top of you also... To make it ... AS IF you had others things going on too... In other words... mud-slinging usually happens at the worst times... `greg, curley95@attbi.com -- REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!`
Post #37,817 by bepatient 5/7/02 3:43:56 PM Reply	And its usually good... ...to really look into the motives of those slinging the mud. A California legislator blaming Enron. I don't think they invented the crisis...they certainly took full advantage of it...but they didn't create it. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #37,855 by folkert 5/7/02 7:12:06 PM Reply	Being taken and opportunistic taking.... I guess that really sums it up, alot of people smelled blood and are really going after LOTS of things in the government. The thing that get me the most is: It never stops happening. Quid Pro Quo... is the standard, heck MS didn't even have to "extended" that one, just embrace it. `greg, curley95@attbi.com -- REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!`
Post #37,835 by wharris2 5/7/02 4:47:49 PM Reply	What would you have had Bush do? Impose federal regulations on a state market? (Other states have tried, and succeeded, with "real" deregulation, not California's regulated so-called deregulation.) I generally hold that the less interference from Washington D.C., the better - and if a state or locality gets into trouble, they deserve to stew in their own juices. (But then I think California, land of the fruits, nuts, and stupid lawmakers deserves to stew more so than most states.) Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
Post #37,844 by inthane-chan 5/7/02 5:35:43 PM Reply	Well, I haven't had much time... ...to think up what he could do, but #1 would have been to get some relief for the non-Californian states (such as my home state, Washington) that were getting screwed over by the spew from California. As I remember, the price gouging got WORSE outside of California, once the energy regulation committee (and no, I don't remember the name) clamped down on the California market, but then avoided clamping down anywhere else. Perhaps they should have done the opposite? "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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