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by rcareaga
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6/10/13 2:37:44 PM
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New I just heard the president say
...that he "welcomes this debate" and considers it a "healthy sign." This statement, I fear, will have to be regarded as being fully as disingenuous as anything ever uttered by C-Plus Augustus during the Cheney Shogunate should Obama's Justice Department move against young Snowdon—or else, as I've grown to fear, the buttons on a modern president's desk are no longer connected to any braking function on the machineries of the National Security state.

Just at the moment I'm listening on NPR to some asshole former CIA head honcho Woolsey calling for Snowdon to be hung up by the balls, and claiming grievous and irreparable damage to "national security" ("if you tell anybody, you tell the terrorists").

James Fallows has a considerably more nuanced view of the hit taken by "national security":

http://www.theatlant...hong-kong/276692/

cordially,
Post #376,180
by drook
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6/10/13 3:12:18 PM
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New Who really just "found out"?
I'm pretty sure most of us -- and certainly anyone generally considered an "enemy" -- already assumed NSA is recording everything. We just lost deniability, so this is a political problem moreso than a security issue.
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Drew
     <Red Siren!!!11>US government PRISM web site!!!11 - (Another Scott) - (21) - June 9, 2013, 03:01:27 PM EDT
         Guardian: Leaker outs himself. - (Another Scott) - (12) - June 9, 2013, 03:07:06 PM EDT
             More on Snowden. - (Another Scott) - (6) - June 9, 2013, 06:19:12 PM EDT
                 hmm, maybe I should apply - (boxley) - (5) - June 9, 2013, 06:33:30 PM EDT
                     Better hurry. - (Another Scott) - (2) - June 9, 2013, 06:44:14 PM EDT
                         just looked at rents :-( -NT - (boxley) - (1) - June 9, 2013, 06:49:00 PM EDT
                             Yup. Too often it works that way... -NT - (Another Scott) - June 9, 2013, 07:09:39 PM EDT
                     $116k is a more realistic going rate. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2013, 06:15:38 PM EDT
                         cheap bassars $55 is low -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 5, 2013, 08:47:03 PM EDT
             Driftglass: Breaking- NSA collecting massive amounts of data - (Another Scott) - (4) - May 20, 2014, 08:42:21 PM EDT
                 Deja vu all over again.. but it snot? -NT - (Ashton) - May 20, 2014, 10:42:01 PM EDT
                 this is from 2006. why post? what point? -NT - (crazy) - (2) - May 21, 2014, 09:23:01 AM EDT
                     Just to show Snowden's revelations weren't exactly new. HTH -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 21, 2014, 10:16:01 AM EDT
                         Golly; why they be SOO-Upset! if it's *ALL* 'old' news..Hmm? -NT - (Ashton) - May 21, 2014, 05:43:29 PM EDT
         To quote a scholar: Meh... - (hnick) - June 9, 2013, 03:16:46 PM EDT
         dunno, if they are doing this - (boxley) - June 9, 2013, 03:41:18 PM EDT
         funny, dont see the FAA logo here? - (boxley) - (2) - June 9, 2013, 03:44:48 PM EDT
             "Go PRISMFAA" - center, last line of slide. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - June 9, 2013, 03:50:41 PM EDT
                 FAA = FISA Amendments Act -NT - (altmann) - June 10, 2013, 03:52:43 AM EDT
         My 'faith' that the 'govt' Can ... perspicuously *mine* - (Ashton) - June 9, 2013, 03:54:50 PM EDT
         I just heard the president say - (rcareaga) - (1) - June 10, 2013, 02:37:44 PM EDT
             Who really just "found out"? - (drook) - June 10, 2013, 03:12:18 PM EDT

I agree with everything you said except "lol".
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