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New Rumors of "Fiscal Cliff" deal. Obummer to speak at 1:30 ET.
http://www.calculate...l-cliff-deal.html

I wondered why the stock markets jumped up around 12:45 PM (but has since fallen back) - http://www.google.co...&authuser=1&hl=en

Doesn't sound too great to me, but the devil's in the details. And it's not like Ezra Klein hasn't been wrong before...

Cheers,
Scott.
New livable if accurate
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New NYTimes has live feed. Starts in 2 minutes.
New No deal yet. Future deficit reductions to require taxes.
New Does that sentence require the word "future"? I think not
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Drew
New that line is from George Washington
Future deficit reductions

is so popular it has been used by every succeeding administration
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New The kabuki is proceeding flawlessly...
Nothing to see yet. There has to be a lot more drama and posturing before they announce exactly how they are going to screw the lesser citizens. The script was written before the play started. I'm not waiting for developing events, just check occasionally to see if they released the details yet.
New Shibaraku!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibaraku

The climactic moment of this short work takes place when a goodly samurai is being assaulted by a number of villains. Kagemasa shouts "Shibaraku!" (Stop a moment!) loudly from behind a curtain (agemaku) and then steps out onto the hanamichi (a raised platform extending through the audience to the stage) in magnificent costume and makeup. Arriving at the stage, he sits on a stool (aibiki) and, in a special kind of monologue called tsurane, explains his story. He then drives the villains off [...]


Obama as Kagemasa. I like that.

;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who still expects no deal before January 1. But who wouldn't be surprised if the deadline were extended slightly.)
New more bukaki than kabuki
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New "And don't tell me it's raining" right?
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Drew
New (Why always so preoccupied with something to eat?)
New /me shudders...
YOU SO BAD!
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New naw, reference was to lousy porn instead of great theater
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 57 years. meep
New Not-quite homonyms: Kagemusha
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080979/

Kurosawa yet.. (Literally "Shadow Warrior" IIRC ... not a bad appellation for BHO, either!)

a.k.a. er, *cough*

It's ALL Theatre!
New Merry Cliffmas!
http://www.washingto...whimper042112.php

It appears the fiscal deal between the White House and Senate Republicans will stick. But since the House is not scheduling a vote for tonight no matter what the Senate does, making it certain those “fiscal cliff” countdown clocks hit zero, making a tax increase a tax cut, there’s no particular reason to expect the Senate to vote today, either.

And more significantly, the payroll tax cut that prevailed the last two years will expire for real, probably never to be seen again, and the “sequester” will apparently go into effect without even a temporary extension since the negotiators couldn’t agree on whether to offset the costs of a two-month delay.

The payroll tax inaction, BTW, means that it really won’t be possible for anyone to claim Washington avoided a middle-class tax increase by reaching a “tax deal.”

Beyond all that, as everyone is noting, the dynamics of the current deal, and its ultimate consequences, depend almost entirely on whether the White House and congressional Democrats hang very tough on the debt limit negotiations, and particularly Obama’s clear line today that additional revenues will have to accompany spending cuts in that deal. If Obama has in effect given away his leverage on taxes to secure relatively small GOP concessions on “stimulus” (the unemployment extension and the EITC, child care credit, tuition credit, and alternative energy credit extenders), it’s not a great deal. If he’s willing to go to the mats for a debt limit increase without big spending concessions, it might be acceptable to progressives.

The issue that’s still hanging out there right now is the immediate fate of the sequestrations, and their political significance is complex. On the one hand, if the sequestrations take effect, they could have a negative effect on the economy. On the other, taking them off the table even for a while could eliminate another leverage point for Obama, given how frantic most Republicans are to insulate the Pentagon and defense contractors from harm.


If Boehner really does refuse to call the House back tonight, there's no sense in either the House or Senate voting before the new Congress starts on January 3. Given all the swearing-ins, Committee assignments, etc., etc., nothing happening before the week of the 14th doesn't seem unreasonable.

IOW, don't expect this to be resolved in the next couple of days.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: Merry Cliffmas!
didnt expect the payroll tax to continue, that is stealing from me personally :-)
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New House approved the rules for the vote. Vote to start soon.
It looks like it'll pass easily, if the vote follows the vote on the rules.

C-Span has the video.

http://www.c-span.or...ll/10737436933-4/

Cheers,
Scott.
New Done deal now!
Alex
New Yup.
More Republicans voted No than Yes.

Boehner wasn't in the chair during the debate - people kept referring to "Mr. Chairman" rather than "Mr. Speaker". I don't know if he was there during the vote.

257:167

In the House 85 Republicans and 172 Democrats voted for the bill, while 151 Republicans and 16 Democrats voted against the bill.


Cheers,
Scott.
New Roll call.
http://clerk.house.g.../2012/roll659.xml

(via a comment at BoomanTribune)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Not a single Independent voted for it.
/me smirks
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     Rumors of "Fiscal Cliff" deal. Obummer to speak at 1:30 ET. - (Another Scott) - (20)
         livable if accurate -NT - (boxley) - (12)
             NYTimes has live feed. Starts in 2 minutes. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11)
                 No deal yet. Future deficit reductions to require taxes. -NT - (Another Scott) - (10)
                     Does that sentence require the word "future"? I think not -NT - (drook)
                     that line is from George Washington - (boxley)
                     The kabuki is proceeding flawlessly... - (hnick) - (7)
                         Shibaraku!! - (Another Scott) - (6)
                             more bukaki than kabuki -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                 "And don't tell me it's raining" right? -NT - (drook)
                                 (Why always so preoccupied with something to eat?) -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                                     /me shudders... - (folkert)
                                     naw, reference was to lousy porn instead of great theater -NT - (boxley)
                             Not-quite homonyms: Kagemusha - (Ashton)
         Merry Cliffmas! - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Re: Merry Cliffmas! - (boxley)
         House approved the rules for the vote. Vote to start soon. - (Another Scott) - (4)
             Done deal now! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                 Yup. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Roll call. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Not a single Independent voted for it. - (folkert)

Duck, and cover.
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