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New armstrong
He's dead.

I know a couple of Russians, now in their late twenties, who were brought up to believe that the US moon landings were faked. They were in their teens when they explained this to me, and responded with condescension and friendly pity when I suggested that the landings might actually have occurred. Oddly, they were most indignant when I slyly responded that I'd heard that Gagarin's orbital flight had been faked.

I was born on a planet that included no human beings who had ever walked upon the surface of another world. If I take reasonable care of myself for another ten or fifteen years, it may be that I'll die on a planet with the same conditions obtaining. Believe me, we never saw that coming.

cordially,
New I remember Soviet TV at the time.
I was only 9 years old, but we were in the Soviet Union during Apollo 11's mission. The only thing the Soviets broadcast was footage of the capsule in the water and the hatch being blown. We saw the astronauts get out. The whole thing lasted maybe 4-6 minutes. I always thought that the only reason they showed that was because they thought there was a chance Collins, Armstrong and Aldrin were dead. My memory is that they acknowledged the landing and then dismissed it is as irrelevant. Something along the lines of, "The Americans have gone to the moon, but we are going to Mars!"

I personally never saw any US footage until A&E rebroadcast Cronkite's report on the 20th anniversary.

As far as the "conspiracy" of us not actually doing it, I've met people here who hold such.
New Remember when Aldrin decked the wingnut?
He came out of an event and the guy confronted him with his standard "Isn't it time you admitted to the American people that it's all a lie?" shtick. Aldrin laid him out with a straight right. Became my favorite senior citizen.
--

Drew
New There's a nice little museum for him in his home town.
Wapakoneta, OH. The museum is just off I-75.

http://www.armstrongmuseum.org/

They couldn't have made a better choice than him to be first.

[edit:] Bah, misspelled the town name.

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott Aug. 26, 2012, 06:22:06 PM EDT
New Great poll in Joy of Tech
http://www.geekcultu...rchives/1733.html

The comic is good, but check out the poll underneath.
--

Drew
New Re: armstrong
https://www.xkcd.com/893/

Sad but true.
-Mike

@MikeVitale42

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New Nit.
I wouldn't call a satellite a "world."

Still, isn't it ironic that a "return to the moon" was projected to take longer (almost 11 years) than it took for the development of all the technology required to take us there the first time?

I think we're ahead of the schedule spoken of in the movie "Idiocracy." In the movie's timeline, I think it's 2415 already. ;0(
New There's a difference
Back then, they built systems as well as they could to support unbelievably capable specialists who actually controlled things.

Today they're trying to build expert systems that can run themselves as long as the naked monkeys sitting in front of the TVs keep their hands off everything.

Which actually sort of makes sense when you're talking about the unmanned vehicles they've been sending out for the last couple of decades. I wonder if there's anyone in the system who's still thinking in terms of expert experts.
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Drew
New There's also no competition.
Back then, the US seriously believed the USSR was eventually capable of putting a man on the moon. And desparately didn't want that to happen.

Nowadays, the competition is mostly China. It's not a race for "first", either.

Wade.
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New Did you catch C. Pierce's encomium?
http://www.esquire.c...ong-dead-12058885


What Neil Armstrong Knew Is What We Never Will
By Charles P. Pierce
at 1:09AM

JACKSONVILLE — Somewhere in my house, most likely in the drawer containing all the stuff I can't find, there's an old three-by-five card containing the only autograph I have ever sought. It belongs to Sir Edmund Hillary, credited with being the first man to climb Mount Everest. I saved the card for more than forty years because there was only one other autograph I wanted on it. It was the only autograph worthy of sharing space on that card. But that other person was shy and didn't talk very much and, on Sunday, in a quiet moment in a very noisy time, a period of its history in which his country's ambition is a small and withered thing, Neil Armstrong died at the age of 82.
My god, we almost lost him twice even before he made Cronkite's palms sweat on TV in 1969. In 1966, as commander of Gemini VI, with his spacecraft docked with a booster rocket, a thruster froze in the ON position, and the whole jerryrigged assemblage started to spin so wildly that Armstrong and his crewmate, Dave Scott, nearly passed out from the torque. Finally, the two men managed to gain control. Then, during his training for his Apollo XI mission, Armstrong's lunar-landing trainer quit on him a couple of hundred feet above the ground. Armstrong ejected just before the vehicle crashed. That was the great gift that he had — that great icy core of knowing that there was always something else to try, that a man can outthink his fate, on the spot, if he knows what he knows and when to apply it. There was in this guy a terribly fierce opponent for mischance.

[. . .]



New Check the comments. ;-)
New Mea culpa: did, minutes ago--was about to 'Never-Mind'
Lame excuse (as usually I do read comments) -- phone rang just after I'd cut/pasted.
Should also have realized that Rand likely would have checked CP's take.
New Hey, take it easy there. :-)
I often read Pierce's pieces while only skimming the comments. I think that's the first one that I've noticed that RC commented on.

I could be wrong though. ;-)

Don't take my comment as a criticism of your reading habits.

Cheers,
Scott.
New (My) impeccable reading habits ... gang oft aglee, izall.
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Law above fear, justice above law, mercy above justice, love above all.
     armstrong - (rcareaga) - (13)
         I remember Soviet TV at the time. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
             Remember when Aldrin decked the wingnut? - (drook)
         There's a nice little museum for him in his home town. - (Another Scott)
         Great poll in Joy of Tech - (drook)
         Re: armstrong - (mvitale) - (3)
             Nit. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                 There's a difference - (drook) - (1)
                     There's also no competition. - (static)
         Did you catch C. Pierce's encomium? - (Ashton) - (4)
             Check the comments. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 Mea culpa: did, minutes ago--was about to 'Never-Mind' - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Hey, take it easy there. :-) - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         (My) impeccable reading habits ... gang oft aglee, izall. -NT - (Ashton)

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