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New Tom Junod of Esquire gets a phone call...
http://www.esquire.c...-strikes-10558354

In the August issue, Tom Junod examines an entirely new application of power on the part of the president — the targeted killing of individuals deemed to be threats to the country. So far, thousands have been killed, most prominent among them Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki. The decisions to target are made and the lethal missions are carried out without any public accountability, even when those targeted are Americans and even when, on one occasion, one of those Americans was a teenager. Over the course of this week, Junod considers five of the larger implications of his story on The Politics Blog. —Eds.

I received a phone call on Tuesday from a person with intimate knowledge of the executive counter-terrorism policies of the Obama administration. He'd read my story, "The Lethal Presidency of Barack Obama," which extensively detailed the unprecedented policy of "targeted killing," most often using drones, and he'd also read the subsequent blog posts that suggested a law that would require transparency whenever an American citizen is killed as a result of a covert lethal operation — that would not allow this Administration, or any Administration to come, to kill, say, a 16-year old American boy like Abdulrahman al-Awlaki without having to say something about it.

The call was a surprise, not simply because I'd tried to speak to this man over the months that I was researching my story, but also because he understood the story better than most of the people who've read it, and thought that I "captured the President fairly."

"You know, most of the people reading this piece are saying that you think that this policy is a bad thing," he said. "You don't say that at all. There's just a current of unease running through the piece that makes people come to that conclusion." In the course of our conversation, I came to believe that he understood that unease because he shared it.

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The first piece "The Lethal Presidency of Barack Obama" is here: http://www.esquire.c...l-presidency-0812

(Both via Anne Laurie at Balloon-Juice - http://www.balloon-j...-acknowledgement/ )

Cheers,
Scott.
New thanks
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Unhuh... cause diplomacy trumps law
at least as far as the current players are concerned.
meh... to quote a scholar
New many rules dont apply offshore
however the current mix and match targeting external from the US and targeting internal via the military and cia is blurring all sorts of lines.
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Ahh...
The civilians we're murdering are in a different country and they murder people all the time there, so it all good. And we're using contractors rather than military personnel for some of it so the military justice code doesn't apply to all of it, but we can't tell you which ones because it's classified or something. But trust us, we're only killing the bad ones because if they weren't bad we wouldn't have killed them.

Gotcha... thanks for clearing that up.
New ^Winning post
New works for everyone since lincoln
not saying its right but your posts sums up the government position nicely
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Yabut.. this all is an Expected phenomenon when one lives
in "the World-of-Opposites" (also/and lately, as easily retitled:)
Within a World of Digital-think, famously about Yes/No ... but lacking the panache/nuance of, Yes/Maybe?/No..

Examples are myriad, about maya, our daily world of illusionary ideas and things.
Just one, of that myriad:

A) 'Times' are tough for everyone but the top 10-15% (arguable #s, of course.)
B) Those with half-a-brain, functioning still--logically Would cut back on all optional/'frivolous' acquisitions of Yet-More-STUFF!
(cf. Geo Carlin on houses. Built solely to store STUFF.)
C) But BUT... to keep the Consumer Dream-fluff Basis for "what liff is all about" still limping along:
D) Jus' Everyone Needs to throw all sanity to the winds and go out and Order/Buy/Use/Send-to-landfill ... ...
... even MORE stuff than back in the good ol' daze of MaxxedOut-CCs,==The Norm in Murica.

See? Reconcile That with 'logic', Reason VS the prevailing Mythos. Our 'System' fits Our cherished illusions, n'est ce pás?

eg You are railing about S.N.A.F.U. Might as well cavil about Tiny Tim's fasetto..




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     Tom Junod of Esquire gets a phone call... - (Another Scott) - (7)
         thanks -NT - (boxley)
         Unhuh... cause diplomacy trumps law - (hnick) - (5)
             many rules dont apply offshore - (boxley) - (4)
                 Ahh... - (hnick) - (3)
                     ^Winning post -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     works for everyone since lincoln - (boxley)
                     Yabut.. this all is an Expected phenomenon when one lives - (Ashton)

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