Post #359,570
6/26/12 10:32:51 AM
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1 agree 2?
the american government was selling rifles to mexican drug lords then bitching about american guns being the cause of mexican drug trafficking violence. Which tard allowed these guns to go into mexico without any way to track them? The previous tard's crew at least had tracking devices on the weapons but when the head tard heard about it he shut it off. The new tard's crew started it back up
Yea I think its important to know if the current head tard knew about it and when.
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Post #359,572
6/26/12 10:49:34 AM
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Asked and answered.
The Issa committee got information to answer those questions. It now wants information about what happened after the thing was shut down, while the IG investigation is continuing. They want to see what damage control discussions happened. It is nothing about policy, it's about trying to inflict political damage on the Democrats. That is all.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #359,573
6/26/12 11:07:10 AM
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the answers they got contradict whistleblower testimony
and other documentation. Its not the act its the coverup they are looking at.
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Post #359,575
6/26/12 12:34:54 PM
6/26/12 12:35:10 PM
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Meh. Let's see what the IG says rather than the car thief..
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Post #359,578
6/26/12 12:47:26 PM
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the AG said "nope didnt know anything about it not me"
then after being shown a few things he said "oh, you meant that, well I, uh, sorry"
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Post #359,581
6/26/12 1:24:41 PM
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Again, asked and answered.
Cole's letter (for Holder): http://graphics8.nyt.../062011Letter.pdf (4 page .pdf)
Holder's press release: http://www.justice.g...ne/12-ag-776.html
There's no "there" there - Issa is fishing.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #359,582
6/26/12 1:29:36 PM
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from cole's letter
The Committee has explained that it needs these post-February 4
documents, including "those relating to actions the Department took to silence or retaliate against
Fast and Furious whistleblowers," so that it can determine "what the Department knew about
Fast and Furious, including when and how it discovered its February 4 letter was false, and the
Department's efforts to conceal that information from Congress and the public." cole romneyed the response
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Post #359,635
6/26/12 9:50:48 PM
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Meh.
Here's Holder's letter to Obama making the executive privilege claim:
http://s3.documentcl...ive-privilege.pdf (8 page .PDF).
The DoJ has been responsive to the Committee's requests for information. But are the Republicans really looking for information? Take a look at this report, by the chair of the Judiciary Committee, from April, and let me know if you really think they're interested in the truth.
http://judiciary.hou...204%2028%2012.pdf (17 page .pdf)
Rather than fulfilling the Attorney GeneralÂs oath to Âsupport and defend the Constitution of the United States and the PresidentÂs Constitutional responsibility to Âtake care that the laws be faithfully executed, the Justice Department in the Obama Administration, under the leadership of Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr., has repeatedly put its partisan agenda ahead of its Constitutional duties. The pattern of pushing partisan ideology rather than neutrally enforcing the law began nearly as soon as the Administration took office and has continued unabated since.
Emphasis added.
Holder was confirmed in early February 2009 - http://www.nytimes.c...ics/03holder.html
Shortly before the vote, the tone of the debate turned sharp as some Republicans pushed for a pledge from Mr. Holder not to prosecute intelligence agents for using harsh tactics during interrogations.
Mr. HolderÂs principal vulnerability was that he had facilitated the pardon given by President Clinton eight years ago to Marc Rich, a financier who fled the country to avoid prosecution. But the endorsement of Mr. Holder by many in law enforcement and many notable Republicans, including William Barr, the attorney general under the first President Bush, made it difficult for Republicans to mount a campaign.
Senator Tom Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, praised Mr. HolderÂs qualifications and character as much as any Democrat, calling him a great lawyer and man of integrity. But Mr. Coburn said he was opposed to the nomination, nonetheless, citing Mr. HolderÂs role in the Rich pardon and his views on gun control. Mr. Coburn said that he thought Mr. HolderÂs views on gun registration meant that a man could not simply give a gun that he owned to someone else without the involvement of the government.
http://thehill.com/v...rnment-in-history
Issa came under fire in Oct. 2010 for his statement  which he later retracted  that President Obama was one of the most corrupt presidents in history. Now, Issa is taking aim at the government as a whole, citing the $535 million government loan guarantee to Solyndra and the $823,000 Las Vegas conference held by GSA in 2010.
Issa's committee has been investigating the White House's role in the Solyndra loan since September but has yet to notch a serious victory against the administration.
They've had their knives out for Holder and Obama for a long, long time. These hearings are not about F&F, they're about politics and their dislike of Holder and Obama.
I think I'm about done. HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #359,638
6/26/12 10:08:04 PM
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Re: Meh.
ROSEN: Now we're getting to the real issue. This is why Republicans don't like Eric Holder, because he has challenged voter I.D. laws under the civil rights statutes as voter suppression rules that they are, because he has challenged the Arizona, you know, discriminatory immigration law, because he has refused to implement the discriminatory anti-marriage law.
So, you know, Eric Holder has shown a lot of backbone in the Justice Department, and the Republicans hate it. So what do they do? They call for his resignation; they throw him with document requests that are impossible to respond to; they just throw more and more stuff at him to distract him from doing the things that actually the president and the people hired him to do.
WILL: Let the record show that the Supreme Court, with Justice John Paul Stevens, liberal justice writing it, said that there's no constitutional flaw in photo I.D. voter laws.
Yes, Stevens did say that. In the same decision, Antonin Scalia wrote in his concurring opinion:
"It is for state legislatures to weigh the costs and benefits of possible changes to their election codes, and their judgment must prevail unless it imposes a severe and unjustified overall burden upon the right to vote, or is intended to disadvantage a particular class."
ROSEN: You know, they're going to have to review that in the courts. Thirteen states, George, have instituted new statutes since the Republicans took over those state legislatures in 2010, purely for the purpose of limiting voting.
http://crooksandliar...p-targeted-eric-h
She speaks the truth.
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."
-- E.L. Doctorow
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Post #359,678
6/27/12 2:01:38 PM
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got a bridge in brooklyn for sale cheap
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Post #359,683
6/27/12 2:47:24 PM
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Straight from the elephant's mouth:
State Treasurer candidate Diana Irey Vaughan may have stolen the show at the Republican State Committee meeting this past weekend, but that doesnÂt mean other party members didnÂt have anything to say.
In fact, one of them had a lot to say.
House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-Allegheny) suggested that the HouseÂs end game in passing the Voter ID law was to benefit the GOP politically.
ÂWe are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that weÂve talked about for years, said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.
ÂPro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, itÂs done. First pro-life legislation  abortion facility regulations  in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.Â
http://www.politicsp...can-win-pa/37153/
video of him saying it here: http://videocafe.cro...-about-voter-id-w
How would voter id laws allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania in any way, EXCEPT to prevent those targeted for voting for someone OTHER THAN Romney?
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."
-- E.L. Doctorow
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Post #359,690
6/27/12 4:09:17 PM
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Try and I'll sue you into the next century...
That bridge has been in my family for generations. YOU can't sell it.
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Post #359,589
6/26/12 2:24:03 PM
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I don't think it's really Darrel Issa.
I think it's his brother. You know, the same guy that committed all those crimes that Darrel committed.
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Post #375,889
6/3/13 9:46:50 PM
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Wonkette for the win.
http://wonkette.com/...s-face-on-twitter
Why is top Obama adviser and Â08 campaign guru David Plouffe being so Uncivil as to call crybaby car robber arsonist Darrell Issa a crybaby car robber firebug? Probably because flibbenflobbenslobberIRSghazi the Obama Administration is the most dastardly and intimidating administration the world has ever known, and this is just one more instance of how COMPLETELY UNFAIRLY they will intimidate you by calling you a crybaby car robber firebug just because you were charged with stealing cars and suspected of burning down your own buildings, and also because you love to cry. (Apparently, David Plouffe forgot to put Âcrybaby in his Tweeter, can somebody ask him to correct it?)
rofl.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #375,890
6/3/13 9:49:35 PM
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then why all the whining about calling the prez a felon?
he has admitted to committing felonies in his youth
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Post #375,897
6/4/13 7:44:45 AM
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He was young and irresponsible then
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Post #375,900
6/4/13 9:34:31 AM
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Then got elected and moved on to murder.
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Post #375,901
6/4/13 10:22:15 AM
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for the win
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Post #362,722
9/19/12 3:50:37 PM
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The Fast and Furious IG report is out.
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Post #362,724
9/19/12 4:02:51 PM
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Hmmm.
So, Holder was doing the WRONG, in 2006, 3 years before he was in office!?
Hang him NOW... Hang him. Or Shoot him. I mean come on... he was screwing up 3 years before he even knew what was involved... gosh. So incompetent.
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Post #362,726
9/19/12 4:13:38 PM
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Can there be any question now that Issa has lost his mind?
In his own statement, Issa said, "Contrary to the denials of the attorney general and his political defenders in Congress, the investigation found that information in wiretap applications approved by senior Justice Department officials in Washington did contain red flags showing reckless tactics and faults Attorney General Eric HolderÂs inner circle for their conduct.
"ItÂs time for President Obama to step in and provide accountability for officials at both the Department of Justice and ATF who failed to do their jobs," Issa said.
http://openchannel.n...unning-sting?lite
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Post #362,735
9/19/12 7:46:42 PM
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Truth doesn't matter to him. Winning the battle matters.
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