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New They never know . . .
. . and today it isn't just seedier sites, since legit sites are often invaded. It can be days before the (generally undertrained) sysadmin knows he has a problem.

Some of the worst infections I've dealt with were on computers "protected" by an up-to-date Norton antivirus. The more popular the package the better the bad guys are at penetrating it.
New What are the better ones?
Is AVG still considered good? Just curious.
New Re: What are the better ones?
Yes, AVG is still widely respected, though it's gotten awfully complex lately. I see a lot of comment on Avast, but I haven't tried it.

I recently talked to a guy who works at a shop that does a lot of infection clean-up. He asked me what I install. I told him mostly AVG and Malwarebytes. He said he was relieved I didn't mention any of the "top three".
New Thanks. I've been using AVG
It was once considered one of the best among the people I knew. I didn't know if it had gone downhill or not. So many products do.
New Jumped the shark at v8
From that version on, the free edition found it more important to hawk the paid edition than keeping crud off the host. I had one "customer" with a paid for 8.5 installation and it hosed the PC on three occasions after updating itself.

I have been pointing home users to MS' Security Essentials which seems to succeed in doing pretty much what AVG 6 used to do: keep things clean and not be intrusive.

We do have AVG as the AV on duty at work. Overall, it does do a pretty good job. Only a few things slipped through in the last 2 years and it generally manages to clean up after a signature update. Definitely haven't seen any of Andy's grade nasties on our PCs yet.

(Caveat: we do run 4.8 as the later version at the time was not supported by their network console and the current version requires Silverlight of all things. Not sure yet where we'll go come renewal time as there is no way that debacle makes it on one of the servers.)
     Mother of all boot kits. - (Andrew Grygus) - (18)
         Winders == Perpetual job security for AG, eh? Good luck. -NT - (Another Scott)
         I'd have written the disk off as fecked and replaced it, tbh - (pwhysall) - (2)
             No way to know THAT would have fixed it without the actual - (crazy)
             That could be dangerous. - (static)
         Also... - (pwhysall) - (11)
             WTF? - (crazy) - (5)
                 See? - (folkert)
                 Shrug - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     nods, yup -NT - (boxley)
                     Wot 'e said. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 Shrug - (pwhysall)
             They never know . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 What are the better ones? - (hnick) - (3)
                     Re: What are the better ones? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                         Thanks. I've been using AVG - (hnick)
                     Jumped the shark at v8 - (scoenye)
         So then.. - (Ashton) - (1)
             The fact that . . . - (Andrew Grygus)

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