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Post #35,693
by Ashton
4/16/02 7:35:15 PM
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New Re. 'lying'
If.. the first casualty of war is truth, then life in a Warfare State is guaranteed to afford precious little 'truth' -- and assuredly none of that! from any side's Official Sources. CYA is the universal Religion, just after - the accumulation of $.

So then - believe every 'journalist's extrapolation of an event, via 10 minutes spent talking to survivors?

(My solution is - I know that I will *not* hear anything approaching truth -during- and very little after. Those who imagine, just now, that they are well-enough informed: are either very wise and well-connected OR they are fantasizing.)

The only general Rule I find I can rely upon in every event: where homo-sap and his mouth are involved, Shit Will Happen, but half will say that it smells like a rose.


Ashton
Post #35,718
by Brandioch
4/16/02 11:12:00 PM
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New There is ONE way to "know".
The side with nothing to fear from public disclosure will/would/should allow reporters to follow along after the combat troops.

Wasn't Wolf in a hotel in Bagdad during the initial attack on Iraq? Filming. Recording.
     Please, tell me this isn't true. - (pwhysall) - (39) - April 16, 2002, 07:47:59 AM EDT
         I've never been in the army... - (Arkadiy) - April 16, 2002, 09:58:27 AM EDT
         Its true - (boxley) - (19) - April 16, 2002, 10:06:07 AM EDT
             Left? - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 16, 2002, 11:28:02 AM EDT
                 Same place people in london went during the blitz - (boxley) - April 16, 2002, 11:31:16 AM EDT
             But why lie about it then? - (Brandioch) - (13) - April 16, 2002, 12:15:48 PM EDT
                 You can't let the Red Cross into a combat zone - (rsf) - (12) - April 16, 2002, 03:17:58 PM EDT
                     Only once. - (Brandioch) - (11) - April 16, 2002, 04:39:57 PM EDT
                         I'll spell it out for you - (rsf) - (10) - April 16, 2002, 05:05:47 PM EDT
                             Try spelling it out again. - (Brandioch) - (9) - April 16, 2002, 07:16:28 PM EDT
                                 I can't comment beyond this post - (rsf) - April 16, 2002, 07:45:02 PM EDT
                                 Intention does matter - (3)) - (7) - April 16, 2002, 09:47:16 PM EDT
                                     Yep. - (Brandioch) - (6) - April 16, 2002, 11:06:39 PM EDT
                                         Actually, he's got a point. - (inthane-chan) - (5) - April 17, 2002, 02:01:16 PM EDT
                                             Drones aren't the technology we need... - (hnick) - (4) - April 17, 2002, 02:54:49 PM EDT
                                                 Exactly! 'Fair Witness' is dead-on. But WHO amongst us ??? -NT - (Ashton) - (3) - April 17, 2002, 03:59:22 PM EDT
                                                     Ah, but drones are just the start... - (inthane-chan) - April 17, 2002, 05:03:30 PM EDT
                                                     Doesn't matter... wouldn't work - (hnick) - (1) - April 17, 2002, 05:06:15 PM EDT
                                                         An important minority* would value them, but - (Ashton) - April 17, 2002, 05:54:16 PM EDT
             Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - April 16, 2002, 12:16:29 PM EDT
                 At this point in time..... - (Brandioch) - April 16, 2002, 12:20:39 PM EDT
                 My guess? Not many, maybe none. - (3)) - April 16, 2002, 03:06:43 PM EDT
         It isn't - (3)) - (5) - April 16, 2002, 11:36:08 AM EDT
             Yep, they sure did. - (SpiceWare) - (2) - April 16, 2002, 12:16:51 PM EDT
                 Interesting article. - (Brandioch) - (1) - April 16, 2002, 12:26:31 PM EDT
                     It is on the Editorial/Opinions page -NT - (SpiceWare) - April 16, 2002, 02:27:46 PM EDT
             Re. 'lying' - (Ashton) - (1) - April 16, 2002, 07:35:15 PM EDT
                 There is ONE way to "know". - (Brandioch) - April 16, 2002, 11:12:00 PM EDT
         It is not - (bluke) - (11) - April 16, 2002, 04:08:42 PM EDT
             Fascinating. - (Brandioch) - (10) - April 16, 2002, 05:00:09 PM EDT
                 There you go again - (wharris2) - (7) - April 16, 2002, 06:57:28 PM EDT
                     I'm just reading the articles. - (Brandioch) - (6) - April 16, 2002, 07:10:03 PM EDT
                         Ah, so Israel should just lay back and let bombers in. - (wharris2) - (5) - April 17, 2002, 01:27:47 AM EDT
                             So, "reporters" == "bombers" to you? Fascinating. - (Brandioch) - (4) - April 17, 2002, 12:36:18 PM EDT
                                 So Reporters==evidence? - (boxley) - (3) - April 17, 2002, 12:56:39 PM EDT
                                     Reporters == evidence. - (Brandioch) - (2) - April 17, 2002, 01:47:03 PM EDT
                                         flesh not rope :) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - April 17, 2002, 01:53:20 PM EDT
                                             TMI - (Brandioch) - April 17, 2002, 01:58:52 PM EDT
                 That is the word. - (static) - (1) - April 17, 2002, 08:24:00 AM EDT
                     It's a nasty bit of business, killing. - (Brandioch) - April 17, 2002, 12:52:16 PM EDT

The last time he socialized with us, he got flamed like a mosquito in a bug zapper.
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