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Post #356,210 by Another Scott 4/6/12 1:10:41 PM Reply	Latest example of the policy... (The policy of demanding near-poverty to be eligible for assistance that your (and their) taxes paid for.) http://www.balloon-j...012/04/06/100078/ :-( Cheers, Scott.
Post #356,212 by boxley 4/6/12 1:21:33 PM Reply	Whats wrong with the policy? Taxpayers will pay millions in medical benefits over that woman's lifetime. Now the husband is hale and healthy, he can ditch her for someone more useful or he can assist in payer a very small portion of her medical costs (admittedly high for him but its his choice) thay can have a car, house and $3100 in cash. Other than the fact I have two old cars that fits my current life exactly. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #356,214 by Another Scott 4/6/12 1:40:56 PM Reply	It makes no sense. What's wrong with the policy is that it makes no sense. Why should they be forced to live in poverty for the rest of their lives to qualify for assistance? How does it help them; how does it help their children; how does it help society? If they made $50k a year instead of $15k a year, that would make no meaningful difference to how much the state would or will pay on their $M bills. Wouldn't a better policy be: If you have a catastrophic medical event, you are guaranteed that the state will use tax revenue for your care. Your family won't have to be destitute to qualify, or meet some dollar limit last changed 20+ years ago. Treating the need for catastrophic medical insurance, or medical insurance period, as some moral failing is stupid and counter-productive. Cheers, Scott.
Post #356,218 by boxley 4/6/12 3:16:33 PM Reply	if you think owning a house car and 3k in the bank is poverty then you make waaayy too much money. Must be one o them 1 percenters I keep hearing about. Seriously there must be about 80plus million people in this country who would sell their relatives to be able to afford a house car and have 3k in the bank Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #356,219 by Another Scott 4/6/12 3:33:33 PM Reply	Read the story again. They'll have no retirement savings. No way to pay for their kids to go to college. Yes, many people are in that boat. But the others they're not required to be in that boat for the rest of their lives. They can't accept financial help from family or friends. He had a job where the employer didn't offer health insurance. If he had a job where he got too large a raise, they'd lose an equivalent part of their benefits - benefits they paid for. It's state-enforced poverty for no good reason. Cheers, Scott.
Post #356,222 by boxley 4/6/12 5:15:48 PM Reply	again you claim house car and 3k is poverty, hardly Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #356,223 by Another Scott 4/6/12 5:48:22 PM Reply	...
Post #356,225 by Another Scott 4/6/12 7:50:36 PM Reply	Charlie's take. http://www.esquire.c...e-scandal-7890580 Don't miss the comments, too. Cheers, Scott.
Post #356,226 by boxley 4/6/12 8:29:30 PM Reply	yup love me that obamacare I need to hire someone, the husband has the qualities I need but his wife is a quad and my small business policies would shoot thru the roof if I hire him. Guess what, he aint going to get hired. Im assuming you have health care coverage of some kind. I do not have any. So yes I am aware of my personal limited options if I break. I will find a way to live without crying thats its unfair that I can never own more that one home and car because I am disabled. I realize that most Americans will spend their entire lives without owning a home. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #356,249 by lincoln 4/7/12 2:12:10 PM Reply	Re: yup love me that obamacare I realize that most Americans will spend their entire lives without owning a home. wrong: For starters, the ability of regular folks to buy a home is a relatively new phenomenon in the timeline of American history. "As recently as the 1930s, fewer than 40 percent of adults in American households owned their homes," says Robert Hockett, a law professor at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y., who studies organizational and financial law and economics. Only after the Hoover and Roosevelt administration made regulatory changes in the home mortgage industry did the homeownership rate go up. The housing bubble also exaggerated the rate. From a high of 69.2 percent in 2004, the share of Americans who own their home has fallen to 66.4 percent, which is still a percentage point or two above the rates that predominated from the mid-1960s through the mid-'90s. http://www.csmonitor...-for-rental-homes "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #356,255 by boxley 4/7/12 2:56:42 PM Reply	own, not rent from a bank. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #356,238 by pwhysall 4/7/12 1:00:10 AM Reply	Re: Latest example of the policy... And this sort of thing is one of the myriad reasons why we communists have better health care for less money. Why is the US so underpant-wettingly terrified of socialised health care?
Post #356,239 by Andrew Grygus 4/7/12 1:07:58 AM Reply	Cold war propeganda. Socialized anything = Godless Communism = Evil Empire = eternal slavery and/or nuclear annihilation. It'll take three or four generations to wring this formula out of fly-over America - if it can even be done at all.
Post #356,288 by mmoffitt 4/9/12 9:09:50 AM 4/9/12 9:10:58 AM Reply	We aren't opposed. We're just stupid. Our government already pays half or a little better all monies paid for healthcare in this country (MediCare and Medicaid). The last I had actual numbers as a consequence of working for a non-profit healthcare insurance company (2000), the average American spent 80% of what he would spend in his lifetime on medical expenses in the last two months of his life. Since the average American was round about 72 then, guess who was picking up the tab? Our federal government via MediCare - among the most popular of all federal programs. My dad spent a week in the hospital before dying last July. I just saw his bill for that week: $167,000.00. 99% covered via MediCare and Veterans' benefits. But, we're retarded as is evidenced here: http://politicalhumo...f-My-Medicare.htm Edit: My own retarded tpyo. Edited by mmoffitt April 9, 2012, 09:10:58 AM EDT Expand All History

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