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New Not mutually exclusive
It's stupid to be stoned on stage while you're trying for the (allegedly) most powerful job in the country. It's probably stupid to be that stoned when you're auditioning for a Mary Kay route. It may be acceptable for Amway...
New Nope... for Amway...
Its nearly a requirement.

Remember, I live about 10 minutes from Grand Head Quarters... and this city has fumbled over themselves re-naming everything for Dick DeVos and Jay Van Andel.

The DeVos Family has its name emblazoned on Hospitals, Venues, Buildings... and now the "Fox Group" owned by them, now owns ginormous numbers of Automotive and Powersports related dealerships including brands: Ford, Chrysler, GM, Harley-Davidson, Yamaha, Honda, Saab, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Porsche, VW, Audi, Suzuki, DaeWoo, Lincoln, Hyundai, KIA, Cadillac, Lexus, Aprilia, Polaris, Victory, Indian and many others.

So, this town is seriously on drugs when it comes to Amway.
New Interesting. I thought Amway was just a silly pyramid cult.
New It is...but it's also a pyramid scheme
and racks in the cash.

DeVos...the deVos that *I* know of, own the Orlando Magic and had the Amway Stadium (which was just blown up)


There is a gym in Maitland called...RDV. (Wanna guess who's initials it belongs to?)
New Robb Van Damm?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Re: It is...but it's also a pyramid scheme
Dick DeVos is the one that setup RDV Sports, Inc. setting it up to isolate him from an "problems" as he *just* an investor and CEO...

Yep... really has diversified his portfolio, tremendously.
New And don't forget the best part: Van Andel Arena.
I didn't know you were that close. I'm 2 hours away and have been to 5 Griffins home games so far. ;0)
New Re: And don't forget the best part: Van Andel Arena.
Today, I ate Lunch at Giorgio's Pizza at 15 Ionia. 1 block west of the actual Van Andel Arena building.

Uh... yeah, I'm that close. I live on the South side of GRR.

50th and Division Area of Wyoming, MI.

And you've been to 3 more Griffins homes games than I have been to. Haha!
Expand Edited by folkert April 4, 2012, 09:26:52 PM EDT
     he wasnt stupid, ho was stoned - (boxley) - (9)
         No, he's stupid, stoned or not -NT - (lincoln)
         Not mutually exclusive - (hnick) - (7)
             Nope... for Amway... - (folkert) - (6)
                 Interesting. I thought Amway was just a silly pyramid cult. -NT - (hnick) - (3)
                     It is...but it's also a pyramid scheme - (S1mon_Jester) - (2)
                         Robb Van Damm? -NT - (boxley)
                         Re: It is...but it's also a pyramid scheme - (folkert)
                 And don't forget the best part: Van Andel Arena. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     Re: And don't forget the best part: Van Andel Arena. - (folkert)

And suddenly it occurred to me where these guys had learned their tactics. They'd seen Beau Geste, and were copying the Foreign Legionaires at Fort Zinderneuf.
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