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Post #35,596 by 3) 4/16/02 11:36:08 AM Reply	It isn't One constant in war: all sides are liars. The Israeli version is also a lie. I find it hard to locate much sympathy anymore. Too many intentional martyrs, too many situations set up to force "atrocities". Machavelli said that each prince is allowed one bloodbath, and I think he's right here. The other two choices for Israel are to engage in a prolonged reign of terror or allow people to continue blowing them up. The Palestinean side demanded this, specificaly so they could howl about the atrocity of it all when they got it. Their Arab buddies encouraged it and financed it, because it is cheaper to buy some explosives and pay off the families than it is to fight your own wars. I've been a raging peacenik for my entire life, but it is time to end this, and when one side won't accept anything less than the anihilation of the other, well, Israel did, in fact, Give Peace a Chance. Several times. I am not a man, I am a free number.
Post #35,602 by SpiceWare 4/16/02 12:16:51 PM Reply	Yep, they sure did. [link\|http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/104/oped/Let_Israel_fight_its_way_to_peace+.shtml\|Let Israel fight its way to peace] The United States did not spend eight years negotiating with Mullah Omar and the Taliban. President Bush gave them one chance to cooperate and hand over Osama bin Laden; when they refused, they were destroyed. Arafat and his lieutenants, by contrast, have been given chance after chance to prove their peaceful bona fides. What they have proven instead is that they are liars and conscienceless killers. If America after Sept. 11 had the right to obliterate the Taliban, Israel has the right to obliterate the Palestinian Authority. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #35,607 by Brandioch 4/16/02 12:26:31 PM Reply	Interesting article. Particularly when, supposedly, it is attempting to show how Israel does not resort to terrorism while Arafat supports it. But it keeps bringing up how Israel is a friend of the US and Palestinians celebrated the WTC attack. Just an observation. I take it "journalism" isn't taught in schools anymore.
Post #35,626 by SpiceWare 4/16/02 2:27:46 PM Reply	It is on the Editorial/Opinions page Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #35,693 by Ashton 4/16/02 7:35:15 PM Reply	Re. 'lying' If.. the first casualty of war is truth, then life in a Warfare State is guaranteed to afford precious little 'truth' -- and assuredly none of that! from any side's Official Sources. CYA is the universal Religion, just after - the accumulation of $. So then - believe every 'journalist's extrapolation of an event, via 10 minutes spent talking to survivors? (My solution is - I know that I will not hear anything approaching truth -during- and very little after. Those who imagine, just now, that they are well-enough informed: are either very wise and well-connected OR they are fantasizing.) The only general Rule I find I can rely upon in every event: where homo-sap and his mouth are involved, Shit Will Happen, but half will say that it smells like a rose. Ashton
Post #35,718 by Brandioch 4/16/02 11:12:00 PM Reply	There is ONE way to "know". The side with nothing to fear from public disclosure will/would/should allow reporters to follow along after the combat troops. Wasn't Wolf in a hotel in Bagdad during the initial attack on Iraq? Filming. Recording.

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