Post #35,566
4/16/02 7:15:08 AM
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Dessert instead of desert...
It's instead of its.
etc
Cheers, Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything." --Richard Feynman
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Post #35,568
4/16/02 7:35:32 AM
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Here's an obsure one.
"ye" is not an Old English word! Historians think it is a corruption of "\ufffde" (which is just "the") when people were searching for an "old worlde" word and didn't know that \ufffd was a valid character in the Old English language.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,571
4/16/02 7:55:19 AM
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About "you" versus "thee"
An [link|http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?mas:3573:kkbeaakganiojkggkegg|amusing footnote] that I saw a long time ago.
I may have mentioned it before.
Cheers, Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything." --Richard Feynman
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Post #35,708
4/16/02 9:52:13 PM
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Perhaps.
I found the same information from another source. :-) 'Tis amusing.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,775
4/17/02 2:03:48 PM
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No 'perhaps' about it - here's a third "source":
That's how the singular second-person personal pronoun looks in other Germanic[*] languages, too. Heck, even in French, come to think of it -- the Romance languages' roots are somewhat similar to the 'I - me, thou - thee' system, too (right, anyone who took Latin?).
[*]: The further back you go in history you go, the more Germanic and less of a mongrel English used to be.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,833
4/17/02 10:49:40 PM
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I meant "perhaps he already told us".
Among the many things I collect are books about the history of the English language. So I know that English is technically a Germanic language, though the pedigree is rather grubby at the moment.
Several interesting bites (I'm summarising): OE lost a lot of its conjugations a little time after the Angles and Saxons settled in because there were two "versions" of English largely with different conjugations, so they wore away. Also: A *lot* of change of Middle English can be blamed on the Normans (French). Prior to that, English resembled German, Dutch and Danish. It was also because of the Normans that English lost a lot of descriptive phrases that we've never regained.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,862
4/18/02 9:35:52 AM
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Nice collecto-mania... :-) "Descriptive phrases"?
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Post #35,967
4/18/02 11:34:57 PM
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Personally.. I miss pre-Norman 'schweinehund' (sp?)
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Post #35,973
4/19/02 12:03:38 AM
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Descriptive Phrases.
The poem Beowulf is rich in descriptive metaphor and simile. Modern day English always strikes me as tawdry by comparison.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,975
4/19/02 12:28:32 AM
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A, I C... "Kennings", as they're called in Old Norse.
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Post #35,650
4/16/02 3:52:38 PM
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& vice versa, of course - who wants a sand cake for pudding?
*) Apostrophisms in general -- it's utterly amazing how many people get that wrong, and how often.
*) Thee - thou - thine, used in ways where they don't fit grammatically ('thou' for the subject, 'thee' for the object of an action).
*) Archaisms in general -- 90% of the occurrences of 'thee' or 'thou' that you see are accompanied by modern forms of verbs -- while right next to them, it's 'you' who 'art' or something.
*) Just about every third word, or two words per sentence -- whichever works out to more -- that Bryce writes.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,669
4/16/02 5:06:07 PM
4/16/02 5:07:22 PM
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Why do you think I said "It is..." ? :)
-- Chris Altmann
Edited by altmann
April 16, 2002, 05:07:22 PM EDT
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