so slut shaming is a cure for narcissism?

Post #355,567 by boxley 3/20/12 9:56:57 AM Reply	so slut shaming is a cure for narcissism? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,568 by Another Scott 3/20/12 10:36:31 AM Reply	Eh? You think she reads TBogg or cares what TBogg says? You don't think it was laughable that she compared her life and situation to Sandra Fluke's? Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,576 by boxley 3/20/12 12:54:23 PM Reply	So a dem gets picked on by limbough Someone else gets picked on by maher and the point being made is the president chimes in on just one side. So the non dem can be attacked with impunity. Thats what I see Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,578 by Another Scott 3/20/12 1:12:01 PM Reply	Interesting view. I think you need better glasses. ;-)
Post #355,582 by crazy 3/20/12 2:56:45 PM Reply	You can't buy that many shades of gray And box can't find anything other than black and white blinder bi-focals.
Post #355,584 by boxley 3/20/12 3:11:12 PM Reply	not me with the black and white issue the world according to you'all is women dont matter unless they are democrats Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,586 by Another Scott 3/20/12 3:56:45 PM Reply	Do me a favor, please. Let me know if you think this is a fair summary. 1. Sandra Fluke was not permitted to testify before a congressional committee because the Republicans blocked her as a witness. 2. The Democrats called a sort-of hearing where she did testify as a private citizen attending a Jesuit school that has insurance policies that do not cover contraception. 3. She testified about the importance of birth control being covered by health insurance policies. http://littlegreenfo...pt_of_Sandra_Fluk Note she didn't testify about her sex life. 4. Rush spent 3 days impugning her character, calling her names, lying about what she said. http://thinkprogress...70-sexist-smears/ 5. National Republican office-holders are afraid of Limbaugh. 6. Obama called Fluke before a TV appearance to encourage her and thank her for her testimony. http://www.dailykos....offer-his-support Fair? I'll let you present your view of Ms. Palin's circumstances, how they're equivalent to Fluke's, and tell me why it isn't silly of her to expect that Obama should call her. He's already said (in 2008) that families of political candidates should be off limits. http://www.cbsnews.c...04967-502443.html Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,596 by boxley 3/20/12 4:55:53 PM Reply	this silliness is not the issue Limbaugh was flat out wrong attacking Fluke Maher was borderline unfunny with his bit Bristol was making a point that Maher was not a big deal but Limbaugh is (point being silly or not) Slut shaming by attack weasels from the left and the response oh, she was being silly by the left so she deserves such attacks is what I dont like and pointed out here. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,598 by drook 3/20/12 4:59:28 PM Reply	You think she was going meta? I read her post. I didn't see it as insulting Maher as being less important than Rush. She was criticizing the president for defending Fluke but not her. No subtext at all. -- Drew
Post #355,603 by Another Scott 3/20/12 6:01:30 PM Reply	Re: this silliness is not the issue #1 - Agreed. #2 - Meh. Maher is borderline misogynistic - period. (I only rarely watch his show for more than a couple of minutes - I don't find him funny most of the time, and his panels are often a waste of time.) But "jokes" in a monologue isn't close to the same as what Limbaugh did over many hours. #3 - Meh. Of course Maher isn't in the same league as Limbaugh when it comes to political influence. Nobody in office, of the left or the right, really cares what Maher thinks. #4 - Meh. I posted a link to TBogg's comments on her post. TBogg isn't Maher. TBogg doesn't suffer grifters gladly - no matter their gender. Maher's "jokes" about her, in 2008, were probably often over the line. He often is. Maybe Maher should call her. Her blog post about Obama calling was disingenuous and just designed to attract attention - which it did nicely. Something a narcissist would do... FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,670 by Another Scott 3/22/12 6:37:03 AM Reply	She shouldn't expect a call from Maher either. OpEd at NYT. http://www.nytimes.c...-apologizing.html FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,597 by drook 3/20/12 4:56:50 PM Reply	Wow Your link in #4 ... what a concentrated helping of dumbassitude. It's wrong eight ways from Sunday, but the one I want to ask about: If you take the pill, don't you take exactly the same does whether you're having sex once a year or three times a day? Does he not know that, or does he think his audience doesn't? (Yeah, I know, he's just pretending not to know so he can use what he believes is a clever line.) -- Drew
Post #355,601 by Another Scott 3/20/12 5:43:10 PM Reply	I'm not sure he's pretending... :-/
Post #355,602 by boxley 3/20/12 5:47:52 PM Reply	TBogg is a well know ERV Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,605 by hnick 3/20/12 6:48:39 PM Reply	Energy Recovery Ventilation? This is further out than your usual...
Post #355,606 by boxley 3/20/12 7:10:51 PM Reply	erv as in elevatorgate http://furiouspurpose.me/tag/erv/ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,610 by Another Scott 3/20/12 7:55:40 PM Reply	Hardly. https://www.google.c...rch?q=tbogg+women HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,612 by boxley 3/20/12 9:01:24 PM Reply	from yer link http://crayfisher.wo...a-misogynist-pig/ ervite Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,613 by Another Scott 3/20/12 9:03:49 PM Reply	Read him in his posts. In context.
Post #355,614 by boxley 3/20/12 9:47:05 PM Reply	he supports women the same way Rand supports Israelis nice folk but not qualified to make decisions for themselves. Anyway, the President should call Bristol, but not during the day because she will be at her job as the assistant skin exfoliater trainee at Merle Norman and her boss wonÂt let her take personal phones calls while sheÂs working because sheÂs a total bitch. its called slut shaming, no different from the erv who claimed that since he liberated bosnian rape camps, he is more qualified than a woman to determine what is oppression. Never mind that from his picture he must have joined the army at 10 years old. from a post elsewhere okay, a lib friend of mine posted a link to the following. I then posted that he needed his SO to explain privilege to him. Was I wrong? http://tbogg.firedog...ntial-booty-call/ Single Mom Waiting For Her Presidential Booty Call \| TBogg tbogg.firedoglake.com Future grandmother-at-34 and mother of one or two kids depending upon whether youÂre Andrew Sullivan, Bristol Palin has a blog now! And instead of Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · 22 hours ago Llewelly Foo you were right. This is out-and-out slut shaming - although it's not as awful as some of the garbage TBogg has posted in the past. dont think much of TBogg at all Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,615 by drook 3/20/12 10:22:13 PM Reply	Question Isn't slut shaming when you criticize a woman for the same sexual habits that you would have no problem with from a man? Suggesting that someone is stupid, or low-class, or white trash, or any of the other things I see people saying about various Palins, may not be very polite, but I don't think it's slut shaming. And besides that, when people try to act as spokespeople for "family values" while living a life blatantly at odds with what the espouse, well that's not slut shaming it's calling out hypocrisy. -- Drew
Post #355,623 by boxley 3/21/12 10:09:33 AM Reply	Re: Question http://finallyfemini...-is-slut-shaming/ Put in the most simple terms, slut-shaming happens when a person Âpublicly or privately [insults] a woman because she expressed her sexuality in a way that does not conform with patriarchal expectations for womenÂ (Kat, Slut-Shaming vs. Rape Jokes). It is enabled by the idea that a woman who carries the stigma of being a slut Â ie. an Âout-of-control, trampy femaleÂ Â is Ânot worth knowing or caring aboutÂ (Tanenbaum, p. 240). title of nothers link Single Mom Waiting For Her Presidential Booty Call (fits description) Future grandmother-at-34 and mother of one or two kids depending upon whether youÂre Andrew Sullivan asserts her sexual activities are out of mainstream Which is about how Bristol wants a phone call from President Black Obama just like that one he made to that slutty college girl, because Bristol had no birth control either and sheÂs got the baby to prove it so, hah!, she wins! LOL!: tad obvious what it is Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,629 by drook 3/21/12 11:05:33 AM Reply	Ref: "satire" and "hypocrisy" This can really easily degenerate into, "He started it!" But I read that article as more along the lines of speck vs. plank -- http://www.biblegate...3A3-5&version=NIV -- Drew
Post #355,631 by boxley 3/21/12 11:19:13 AM Reply	One could write a book about Palin venality stupidity and vacuousness without ever touching sexuality but he went there, and only there. My two cents Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,643 by lincoln 3/21/12 4:11:47 PM Reply	Re: Question Future grandmother-at-34 and mother of one or two kids depending upon whether youÂre Andrew Sullivan asserts her sexual activities are out of mainstream Actually, yes, they are. Where I grew up most women I knew didn't become grandmothers until their mid 40s at the earliest. "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Post #355,655 by boxley 3/21/12 8:46:57 PM Reply	thank you for confirming my point Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,616 by Another Scott 3/20/12 10:27:30 PM Reply	Nobody's asking you to like him. http://tbogg.firedog...d-about-aborting/ This is one of those Â What Digby saidÂ posts. Go read. Keep in mind that all of these roadblocks designed to keep women from choosing a perfectly legal medical procedure arenÂt about shaming them, itÂs about giving them the information they need because a woman who is obviously too stupid to realize that her ÂconditionÂ may result in a baby is exactly the kind of person society wants raising that child when it magically appears. (If it's not clear, that's sarcasm in the 2nd paragraph. That's what TBogg does.) What did digby say? http://digbysblog.bl...ion-pregnant.html No, TBogg doesn't hate women. Among other things, he has a daughter that he posts about all the time ("the L&T Casey") - he has some idea of how hard it is being a woman in this society. (I think that's why he seems to have an extra helping of venom for Republicans who want to mess around with what women do with their bodies. Just a guess, though.) He goes after the Palins because he regards them as cynical grifters and he (apparently) feels that if they're so desperate to be in the popular press, on TV, and on the 'tubes, well, he'll be happy to make fun of them. E.g. 2008: http://tbogg.firedog...going-to-go-well/ 2009: http://tbogg.firedog...by-in-the-corner/ 2010: http://tbogg.firedog...tic-grifter-girl/ 2011: http://tbogg.firedog...ith-student-body/ My $0.02. FWIW. HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #355,620 by boxley 3/21/12 9:59:48 AM Reply	Like or dislike has nothing to do with it I called him on content and you portrayed him as a champion of women's rights. I then pointed out that you need "privilege" explained to you. You demurred and continued to point out that TBoggs was ok. Thats fine, its okay that you dont get it. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,626 by Another Scott 3/21/12 10:38:15 AM Reply	Your sarcasm detector is broken. That's Ok.
Post #355,628 by boxley 3/21/12 11:04:26 AM Reply	Ah, so where is his watermelon and fried chicken article Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #355,630 by Another Scott 3/21/12 11:17:58 AM Reply	...

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