Post #35,481
4/15/02 4:05:22 PM
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It is SPEECH dammit, not SPEACH
-- Chris Altmann
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Post #35,483
4/15/02 4:11:39 PM
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would you like frys with yer whine :)
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
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Post #35,484
4/15/02 4:26:13 PM
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You're fighting a "loosing" battle!!!
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Post #35,485
4/15/02 4:28:28 PM
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kneadnt start a pun war
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
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Post #36,377
4/24/02 1:25:48 PM
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Get it "rite". "Your" fighting a "loosing" battle!
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Post #35,488
4/15/02 4:41:44 PM
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Holy fucking shit, man, you think *that* is bad???
There's zillions of worse things that not only /.-kiddies, but you guys too (yeah, even you, "prof"), write all the time.
Enough to drive anybody above "semi-litterate" level up the fucking walls, it is.
So of course I can't think of any examples right now. :-(
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,489
4/15/02 4:44:39 PM
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semi litterate, half trained cat :)
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
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Post #35,500
4/15/02 5:01:50 PM
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'Xackly my point!
I wish... But that was -- of-bloody-*course*, in a context like this -- a gen-you-wine mistrake.
In mitigation, I can only plead that the word 'litterature' (and its derivatives) is (are) actually spelt that way in all my other languages.
(Except possibly French; there, I can't even remember which way it is even now that I _think_ about it.)
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,538
4/15/02 11:14:00 PM
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Nit.
You meant "gen-you-whine", dincha? :-)
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #36,419
4/24/02 4:19:54 PM
4/24/02 4:21:31 PM
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"litt\ufffdrature" IIRC (!) ____ Oops: should be under CRC's
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Post #35,497
4/15/02 4:58:18 PM
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Re: Holy fucking shit, man, you think *that* is bad???
"loose" when what is meant is "lose".
I fucking HATE that.
Peter [link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
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Post #35,503
4/15/02 5:04:17 PM
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Yeah, but the Rat-Man already covered that, above.
Must be why it was one of the few examples that actually occurred to me, too.
In writing, on the screen right in front of my nose.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,536
4/15/02 11:06:44 PM
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I fink pronunciation gets on my goat more
There's so much poor spelling around it's almost useless trying to stop it. Of course, I spell impeccably, I just type poorly :-)
I guess this might be a bit oz-specific, but hearing words like 'vunnerable', 'skedule', 'dee-fence' tends to make me cringe.
Can't wait til I'm a crotchety old man who can accost youths in shopping malls and tell them how we learnt to speak properly in my day :-)
On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
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Post #36,381
4/24/02 1:52:08 PM
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Its a sports thing, of course...
They play "dee-fense" in Dee-troit.
jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #36,635
4/26/02 8:57:24 PM
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Knit be-eng piccoloed hear....
They play "dee-fense" in Dee-troit. Cense when, did thay dew thaht??? Eye ain't sheen n-e laitlee! R0XX0R J00Z!
greg, curley95@attbi.com -- REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!
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Post #40,752
5/31/02 2:51:31 PM
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Bushed!
"Nucular" really drives me up the wall. He has been saying it wrong for so long - it must be done on purpose. I can't believe there is not a single person in White House to tell W how to prononce "nuclear". What I can't figure out is why he ignores those hints.
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Post #40,803
5/31/02 10:47:55 PM
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Eisenhower did it too, though. No indicator re
mental capacity per se. (There are other indications re That)
I thought Dubya's recent Petulance Dance (over a reporter speaking a few words in French, to the Fr. Prez IIRC) - more incendiary to sentient mammals than 'nukular'.
Here was OurPrez, behaving vehemently like.. a kid from Lord of the Flies !!
Oh well, "cheer up, things could be worse" So I cheered up and -
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Post #40,805
5/31/02 10:57:37 PM
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It's NUK-UH-LEHR
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Post #40,836
6/1/02 2:27:35 AM
6/1/02 2:29:32 AM
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Umm? Didn't Carter have the same mispronounciation?
Hell, Carter was a nuclear engineer.
What was Bush? Oh, that's right a failed businessman propped up by Daddy's Saudi buddys.
I think it's a southern thing.
"Do you have blacks too?" The stupidest pResident in history to Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso
Edited by Silverlock
June 1, 2002, 02:29:32 AM EDT
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Post #35,566
4/16/02 7:15:08 AM
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Dessert instead of desert...
It's instead of its.
etc
Cheers, Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything." --Richard Feynman
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Post #35,568
4/16/02 7:35:32 AM
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Here's an obsure one.
"ye" is not an Old English word! Historians think it is a corruption of "\ufffde" (which is just "the") when people were searching for an "old worlde" word and didn't know that \ufffd was a valid character in the Old English language.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,571
4/16/02 7:55:19 AM
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About "you" versus "thee"
An [link|http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?mas:3573:kkbeaakganiojkggkegg|amusing footnote] that I saw a long time ago.
I may have mentioned it before.
Cheers, Ben
"... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything." --Richard Feynman
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Post #35,708
4/16/02 9:52:13 PM
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Perhaps.
I found the same information from another source. :-) 'Tis amusing.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,775
4/17/02 2:03:48 PM
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No 'perhaps' about it - here's a third "source":
That's how the singular second-person personal pronoun looks in other Germanic[*] languages, too. Heck, even in French, come to think of it -- the Romance languages' roots are somewhat similar to the 'I - me, thou - thee' system, too (right, anyone who took Latin?).
[*]: The further back you go in history you go, the more Germanic and less of a mongrel English used to be.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,833
4/17/02 10:49:40 PM
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I meant "perhaps he already told us".
Among the many things I collect are books about the history of the English language. So I know that English is technically a Germanic language, though the pedigree is rather grubby at the moment.
Several interesting bites (I'm summarising): OE lost a lot of its conjugations a little time after the Angles and Saxons settled in because there were two "versions" of English largely with different conjugations, so they wore away. Also: A *lot* of change of Middle English can be blamed on the Normans (French). Prior to that, English resembled German, Dutch and Danish. It was also because of the Normans that English lost a lot of descriptive phrases that we've never regained.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,862
4/18/02 9:35:52 AM
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Nice collecto-mania... :-) "Descriptive phrases"?
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Post #35,967
4/18/02 11:34:57 PM
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Personally.. I miss pre-Norman 'schweinehund' (sp?)
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Post #35,973
4/19/02 12:03:38 AM
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Descriptive Phrases.
The poem Beowulf is rich in descriptive metaphor and simile. Modern day English always strikes me as tawdry by comparison.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #35,975
4/19/02 12:28:32 AM
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A, I C... "Kennings", as they're called in Old Norse.
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Post #35,650
4/16/02 3:52:38 PM
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& vice versa, of course - who wants a sand cake for pudding?
*) Apostrophisms in general -- it's utterly amazing how many people get that wrong, and how often.
*) Thee - thou - thine, used in ways where they don't fit grammatically ('thou' for the subject, 'thee' for the object of an action).
*) Archaisms in general -- 90% of the occurrences of 'thee' or 'thou' that you see are accompanied by modern forms of verbs -- while right next to them, it's 'you' who 'art' or something.
*) Just about every third word, or two words per sentence -- whichever works out to more -- that Bryce writes.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #35,669
4/16/02 5:06:07 PM
4/16/02 5:07:22 PM
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Why do you think I said "It is..." ? :)
-- Chris Altmann
Edited by altmann
April 16, 2002, 05:07:22 PM EDT
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Post #35,585
4/16/02 10:43:05 AM
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It's "Ridiculous", not "Rediculous", dammit!
Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
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Post #35,647
4/16/02 3:44:07 PM
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Ah, yes! "DefinAtely" one of those that eluded me yesterday.
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Post #35,672
4/16/02 5:11:44 PM
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A few more:
*) Then - than
*) "Would of"
OK, so that's only two...
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #36,383
4/24/02 1:57:57 PM
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You keep missing my favorite:
"Irregardless"
(Sounds like something you do in a field in New Mexico...)
jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #36,385
4/24/02 2:00:14 PM
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OK, how about this one, then: "That's do to..."
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Post #36,536
4/25/02 6:41:24 PM
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Sorry, Don't know that one...
...must be in an "English" dialext with which I'm not familiar (or, that I'm not familiar with...).
jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #36,559
4/26/02 2:23:50 AM
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Merkin, more than Real English. Must be pronounciation...
...that leads 'em wrong; AFAICS this must be "do" to the word 'due' sounding like 'doo' in (at least many variants of) Merkin, wheras in Real English it's more like 'dyou'. Kinda like 'noo' vs 'nyew', in e.g, Noo Yahk.
Christian R. Conrad Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #36,549
4/25/02 10:13:50 PM
4/25/02 10:23:23 PM
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It's up there with 'ironical'
On a fairly unrelated noted - an observation rather than a whinge, I guess.
Colin Powell's been in the media a lot lately - the funny thing is that many Australian broadcasters are convinced his name is 'Colon' Powell... which in oz is very different pronunciation to Colin.
Are our broadcasters being reverential (in following his(or is it?) American pronunciation of the name) or ignorant (for not realising Colin is pronouncd Colin, fercryingoutloud...) ? I mean, they don't say 'George Dubya Bush' when speaking of the US president...they pronounce the W with it's proper three syllables.
Edit: Just remembered the whole ':' Powell thing...
On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Edited by Meerkat
April 25, 2002, 10:23:23 PM EDT
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Post #36,557
4/25/02 11:53:32 PM
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Yup - the ":" indicates it's aberrant here, too. 'Call-in'
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Post #36,750
4/29/02 5:58:12 AM
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Someone's clearly been reading...
...the placards I prepared for the SF Sklyarov rally.
Man, it takes a *hell* of a lot of white-out to correct mistakes on posters....
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