http://thehill.com/b...l-company-profits
A 3 member "reasonable profits board"
http://thehill.com/i...an2012/hr3784.pdf
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A 3 member "reasonable profits board" http://thehill.com/i...an2012/hr3784.pdf Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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![]() There is nothing new about the Congress being interested in reasonable profits when calculating taxes. You're aware of "anti-dumping" legislation, right? Why shouldn't a windfall-profits tax consider "reasonable profits"?
http://en.wikipedia....pricing_policy%29 While there are very few examples of a national scale dumping that succeeded in producing a national-level monopoly, there are several examples of dumping that produced a monopoly in regional markets for certain industries. Ron Chenow points to the example of regional oil monopolies in Titan : The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. where Rockefeller receives a message from Colonel Thompson outlining an approved strategy where oil in one market, Cincinnati, would be sold at or below cost to drive competition's profits down and force them to exit the market. In another area where other independent businesses were already driven out, namely in Chicago, prices would be increased by a quarter.[2] If calculation of cost of production, which necessarily assumes a reasonable profit (7% for anti-dumping, IIRC), applies to claims for dumping, why shouldn't it apply to calculations of a windfall profits tax? IOW, faux outrage. You shouldn't fall for that. HTH. Cheers, Scott. |
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![]() Dumping is based on a cost valuation and specific to international firms selling below that number to steal mkt share.
There is nothing in this legislation even remotely close to mkt determination. This is 3 policy wonks telling the marketplace what is " reasonable" with zero definition of what that may be. This is pure Atlas Shrugged stuff. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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![]() Yeah, dumping is only applicable in international trade. That's why the Wikipedia article talks about Rockefeller dumping oil in Cincinnati. Way to miss the point.
The point is: There is nothing new about the US examining costs of production, including estimated fair profits, in determining what sorts of actions to take in regulating commerce. The bill says: The Board shall make reasonable profit determinations for purposes of applying section 5896 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to windfall profit on crude oil, natural gas, and products thereof). Emphasis added. Yeah, the Board is going tell the market what a reasonable profit is. Sure. Not. The language clearly says that the tax will be based in part on what the independent Board determines is a "reasonable" profit. I'm sure your buddies at Fox and TownHall would be throwing an even bigger fit if the IRS Commissioner or Secretary of Commerce made the determination instead. FWIW. Cheers, Scott. |
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![]() but didn't Nixon start this stuff up as well?
In the United States, the effects of a tighter world oil market were aggravated by President Richard NixonÂs price controls, which gave special attention to oil because oil prices were rising rapidly. The Nixon price controls, which began in August 1971, were complex and they went through a series of phases over time. The controls interacted with changing market conditions to create shortages of different products at different periods during the 1970s. For example, heating oil shortages arose during late-1972, but most other oil products were less affected at that particular time. http://www.downsizin...nergy/regulations |
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![]() Silly solution to a real problem. If the market is sufficiently monopolistic that the oil companies can inflate prices, then breaking up companies and otherwise opening up the market would be the right solution.
Government pricing boards (which is really what this amounts to) only make sense when a market is so regulated that the government is effectively setting prices. Jay |
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![]() back with Standard Oil years ago.
It's not just a question of "breaking" them up...there is a large start-up cost to oil production, transportation, refining and distribution. This results in a difficulty in competitors to emerge in the market. |