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New Meh. We obviously see things differently...
Nobody is forced to buy health insurance.

We've been through this before, also too.

http://www.kff.org/h...m/upload/8061.pdf

Those without coverage pay a tax penalty of the greater of $695 per year up to a maximum of three times that amount ($2,085) per family or 2.5% of household income. The penalty will be phased-in according to the following schedule: $95 in 2014, $325 in 2015, and $695 in 2016 for the flat fee or 1.0% of taxable income in 2014, 2.0% of taxable income in 2015, and 2.5% of taxable income in 2016. Beginning after 2016, the penalty will be increased annually by the cost-of-living adjustment. Exemptions will be granted for financial hardship, religious objections, American Indians, those without coverage for less than three months, undocumented immigrants, incarcerated individuals, those for whom the lowest cost plan option exceeds 8% of an individual’s income, and those with incomes below the tax filing threshold (in 2009 the threshold for taxpayers under age 65 was $9,350 for singles and $18,700 for couples).

[...]

• Provide refundable and advanceable premium credits to eligible individuals and families with incomes between 133-400% FPL to purchase insurance through the Exchanges. The premium credits will be tied to the second lowest cost silver plan in the area and will be set on a sliding scale such that the premium contributions are limited to the following percentages of income for specified income levels:

Up to 133% FPL: 2% of income
133-150% FPL: 3 – 4% of income
150-200% FPL: 4 – 6.3% of income
200-250% FPL: 6.3 – 8.05% of income
250-300% FPL: 8.05 – 9.5% of income
300-400% FPL: 9.5% of income

• Increase the premium contributions for those receiving subsidies annually to reflect the excess of the premium growth over the rate of income growth for 2014-2018. Beginning in 2019, further adjust the premium contributions to reflect the excess of premium growth over CPI if aggregate premiums and cost sharing subsidies exceed .54% of GDP.
• Provisions related to the premium and cost-sharing subsidies are effective January 1, 2014.


You don't want to have insurance? Pay a $95 tax in 2014. For a $50k taxable income, the maximum, fully phased in tax penalty would be $1250 or something like 10-20% of what a family policy costs now. For the Galtian Overlords their maximum, fully phased in tax penalty would be $2085. You can't afford the insurance? No penalty. You have religious objections? No penalty. You're at or under 400% of the Federal Poverty Level? You get sliding subsidies to help pay for your policy if you choose to get one to limit your premium costs.

Nobody is forced "to pay a corporation a profit to breathe."

There's a lot of stuff in the bill that the insurance companies and Big Pharma and the rest don't like. That's one of the reasons why Wall Street hates Obama.

But I'm sure we won't convince each other of any of this, so I guess I'll stop now.

Cheers,
Scott.
New If wallstreet hates Obama why do they send him money?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Re: If wallstreet hates Obama why do they send him money?
http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=all

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Im not talking about campaign donations

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New More words please.
     A Mitt Romney Thanksgiving. - (Another Scott) - (25)
         did he borry obama's flip flops for the occasion? - (boxley) - (24)
             Heh. "A not yet candidate" - right. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 A not yet THE candidate -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                     "A stich in time saves nine." -NT - (Another Scott)
             so, box, what is your desired outcome for next year? - (rcareaga) - (20)
                 Desired outcome is simple, dont let one party prevail - (boxley) - (19)
                     and the president should be...? -NT - (rcareaga) - (18)
                         (He and Beep have both said they're voting for BHO, IIRC.) -NT - (Another Scott) - (17)
                             unless it looks like the dems can take the house - (boxley) - (16)
                                 What difference would that make? - (mmoffitt) - (15)
                                     Nancy did very well. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                                         yup, but I dont think nancy could regain the chair - (boxley) - (13)
                                             And Barry O killing her Public Option. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                                 Meh. Didn't have the votes in the Senate. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                     Let's not do this again, okay? It's called Leadership. - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                                                         You're the one with the whip, beating that dead horse. - (Another Scott) - (9)
                                                             Well, he started it. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                                                 Um, he got ~ universal healthcare passed - LBJ didn't. - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                                                     Swing and a miss. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                                                         +5, informative :-) -NT - (beepster)
                                                                         Meh. We obviously see things differently... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                             If wallstreet hates Obama why do they send him money? -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                 Re: If wallstreet hates Obama why do they send him money? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                     Im not talking about campaign donations - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                         More words please. -NT - (Another Scott)

Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
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