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Post #350,914 by folkert 11/19/11 8:25:10 AM Reply	... c) People that use the clutch inevitably still going to make some alarming grunching noises when they don't quite hit the spot; no-one's perfect
Post #350,960 by pwhysall 11/21/11 3:40:16 AM Reply	Re: ... Shrug. If I miss a gear, I dip the clutch again, no harm done other than feeling a bit daft. If you miss a gear, it's metal-to-metal contact in the gearbox. Still, if it works for you, that's cool.
Post #350,976 by folkert 11/21/11 11:05:57 AM Reply	Re: ... I haven't ground a gear not using the clutch either... it I miss a shift, it doesn't sound like you think. It sound just like when you miss a gear. There is metal to metal contact when you miss a gear as well. Especially with these modern manual transmissions. You guys are just daft.

IWECar++ - (pwhysall) - (51) - Nov. 14, 2011, 02:40:18 PM EST

I wonder ... - (drook) - (49) - Nov. 14, 2011, 02:55:52 PM EST

Re: I wonder ... - (pwhysall) - (46) - Nov. 14, 2011, 03:03:30 PM EST

Re: I wonder ... - (lincoln) - (7) - Nov. 14, 2011, 04:16:23 PM EST

Re: I wonder ... - (pwhysall) - (4) - Nov. 14, 2011, 04:27:13 PM EST

If you're willing to do it - (lincoln) - (3) - Nov. 14, 2011, 05:24:03 PM EST

Agreed - (crazy) - Nov. 14, 2011, 05:27:17 PM EST

Re: If you're willing to do it - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 14, 2011, 07:48:15 PM EST

automatic transmission? - (rcareaga) - Nov. 15, 2011, 01:10:00 AM EST

I did for years. - (static) - Nov. 14, 2011, 06:55:38 PM EST

did it for years, unless you are in San fran its fine -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 14, 2011, 09:04:45 PM EST

Demur on 1.) - (Ashton) - (37) - Nov. 17, 2011, 03:26:58 PM EST

The climate forcings are complicated.... - (Another Scott) - Nov. 17, 2011, 07:21:41 PM EST

Re: Demur on 1.) - (pwhysall) - (35) - Nov. 18, 2011, 04:51:52 AM EST

As US mileage limits increase, trannys will get better. - (Another Scott) - (34) - Nov. 18, 2011, 07:39:55 AM EST

Re: As US mileage limits increase, trannys will get better. - (pwhysall) - (33) - Nov. 18, 2011, 07:48:37 AM EST

Some of us do. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (2) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:11:00 AM EST

Re: Some of us do. ;-) - (pwhysall) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:23:11 AM EST

Re: Some of us do. ;-) - (pwhysall) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:28:22 AM EST

On the numbers... - (Another Scott) - (29) - Nov. 18, 2011, 10:27:38 AM EST

Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall) - (15) - Nov. 18, 2011, 10:39:48 AM EST

Clutch replacements and drivers. - (static) - Nov. 18, 2011, 06:28:30 PM EST

I'm assuming the machine can shift better than me. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:20:45 PM EST

I use the clutch for startup from being stopped only. - (folkert) - (12) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:22:29 PM EST

Bike? Car? Both? - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 18, 2011, 08:36:56 PM EST

Upshifting, yes; down, no - (drook) - (8) - Nov. 18, 2011, 10:25:08 PM EST

You are... - (folkert) - (7) - Nov. 19, 2011, 01:36:37 AM EST

I"m happy for you - (drook) - (6) - Nov. 19, 2011, 01:59:35 AM EST

People who change gear without using the clutch are... - (pwhysall) - (5) - Nov. 19, 2011, 02:21:17 AM EST

Or mildly retarded - (crazy) - Nov. 19, 2011, 06:03:10 AM EST

... - (folkert) - (2) - Nov. 19, 2011, 08:25:10 AM EST

Re: ... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 21, 2011, 03:40:16 AM EST

Re: ... - (folkert) - Nov. 21, 2011, 11:05:57 AM EST

Well, obviously... - (folkert) - Nov. 19, 2011, 01:41:43 AM EST

yes, years ago I even offered crc to teach his kid to do it - (boxley) - Nov. 19, 2011, 07:39:59 AM EST

Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall) - (12) - Nov. 21, 2011, 03:39:00 AM EST

Nice. -NT - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 21, 2011, 08:36:40 AM EST

remember that is about 38mpg US still good tho -NT - (boxley) - (9) - Nov. 21, 2011, 09:09:35 AM EST

How is 55.4 MPG == 38 MPG...? -NT - (malraux) - (6) - Nov. 21, 2011, 09:49:26 AM EST

Miles are shorter in the U.K. - (drook) - (1) - Nov. 21, 2011, 09:57:12 AM EST

No, UK gallons are larger. -NT - (static) - Nov. 21, 2011, 06:59:33 PM EST

It's not - it's 46.13 US according to this... - (crazy) - Nov. 21, 2011, 11:27:50 AM EST

they get an extra litre per gallon of gas -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 21, 2011, 05:24:41 PM EST

Re: they get an extra litre per gallon of gas - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2011, 02:39:31 AM EST

It's tiny *because* it's imported from China -NT - (drook) - Nov. 22, 2011, 05:02:50 AM EST

MPG == MILES PER GALLON... - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 21, 2011, 11:07:46 AM EST

Re: MPG == MILES PER GALLON... - (pwhysall) - Nov. 21, 2011, 12:44:26 PM EST

Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall) - Nov. 21, 2011, 12:45:57 PM EST

Optimisn, perhaps. - (static) - (1) - Nov. 14, 2011, 03:26:37 PM EST

Much more complex than I thought - (drook) - Nov. 14, 2011, 04:03:10 PM EST

Neat. You and Ashton should swap stories. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 14, 2011, 06:10:28 PM EST

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