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New Some of us do. ;-)
Another advantage of DCTs over manuals is that they're easier to control by the car CPU. Presumably one of the things the car manufacturers are thinking about is "economy" modes where the throttle and gears are automatically selected to maximize efficiency. One can do that with a manual too, e.g. old Corvettes that shifted themselves into ultra-overdrive to get 20 mpg (or whatever), but people expect manuals to be manual and don't like it.

I think the US fleet is too big for most cars here to be diesels. I don't think there's a way to change the fuel mix to get enough diesel for another 150M cars. Could be wrong, though. Refineries can adjust the cracking mix to some extent, and the cracking depends on the qualities of the starting crude, but you can't (easily) go from, say, 20 gal gasoline per barrel with 15 gal of diesel to 30 gal of diesel and 5 gal gasoline.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6089

Efficiency all around is the way to go.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: Some of us do. ;-)
DCTs have some driving advantages over manuals - see Lincoln's paean to his girly clutch-operating leg above - but the figures are clear: manual gearboxes yield better efficiency.

Whilst I don't expect the actual figures I quoted above to be reflected in real-world driving, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that the difference between manual and DCT is indeed present.

Another factor which a DCT cannot consider, no matter how cunning its ECU, is that a manual gearbox's computer is equipped with forward-facing oculation devices, aka the Mk1 Eyeball. A DCT transmission will make shifts that a human driver wouldn't, thus reducing fuel efficiency a little.
New Re: Some of us do. ;-)
Simply put: if you need (in the most extreme sense of that word) to transition more of the US vehicle fleet to diesel, you'll figure it out.

Whether that's brutal enforcement of HOV lanes, cranking up efficiency regulations to the point where's it's diesel or a hybrid, or something I haven't thought of, is all moot.

Personally, I think we're headed for fuel cells, once we figure out how to produce, handle and distribute hydrogen. Massive-scale solar-powered electrolysis is surely going to be on the agenda at some point.
     IWECar++ - (pwhysall) - (51)
         I wonder ... - (drook) - (49)
             Re: I wonder ... - (pwhysall) - (46)
                 Re: I wonder ... - (lincoln) - (7)
                     Re: I wonder ... - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         If you're willing to do it - (lincoln) - (3)
                             Agreed - (crazy)
                             Re: If you're willing to do it - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                 automatic transmission? - (rcareaga)
                     I did for years. - (static)
                     did it for years, unless you are in San fran its fine -NT - (boxley)
                 Demur on 1.) - (Ashton) - (37)
                     The climate forcings are complicated.... - (Another Scott)
                     Re: Demur on 1.) - (pwhysall) - (35)
                         As US mileage limits increase, trannys will get better. - (Another Scott) - (34)
                             Re: As US mileage limits increase, trannys will get better. - (pwhysall) - (33)
                                 Some of us do. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     Re: Some of us do. ;-) - (pwhysall)
                                     Re: Some of us do. ;-) - (pwhysall)
                                 On the numbers... - (Another Scott) - (29)
                                     Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall) - (15)
                                         Clutch replacements and drivers. - (static)
                                         I'm assuming the machine can shift better than me. - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                             I use the clutch for startup from being stopped only. - (folkert) - (12)
                                                 Bike? Car? Both? - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                     Upshifting, yes; down, no - (drook) - (8)
                                                         You are... - (folkert) - (7)
                                                             I"m happy for you - (drook) - (6)
                                                                 People who change gear without using the clutch are... - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                                     (c) they're driving a semi -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                                                                     Or mildly retarded - (crazy)
                                                                     ... - (folkert) - (2)
                                                                         Re: ... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                             Re: ... - (folkert)
                                                     Well, obviously... - (folkert)
                                                 yes, years ago I even offered crc to teach his kid to do it - (boxley)
                                     Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                         Nice. -NT - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                             remember that is about 38mpg US still good tho -NT - (boxley) - (9)
                                                 How is 55.4 MPG == 38 MPG...? -NT - (malraux) - (6)
                                                     Miles are shorter in the U.K. - (drook) - (1)
                                                         No, UK gallons are larger. -NT - (static)
                                                     It's not - it's 46.13 US according to this... - (crazy)
                                                     they get an extra litre per gallon of gas -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                         Re: they get an extra litre per gallon of gas - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                             It's tiny *because* it's imported from China -NT - (drook)
                                                 MPG == MILES PER GALLON... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                     Re: MPG == MILES PER GALLON... - (pwhysall)
                                         Re: On the numbers... - (pwhysall)
             Optimisn, perhaps. - (static) - (1)
                 Much more complex than I thought - (drook)
         Neat. You and Ashton should swap stories. -NT - (Another Scott)

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