Post #350,350
11/9/11 2:55:45 PM
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Why does Ubuntu hate Nvidia?
They just came out with another kernel. Every fucking time they do this, my Nvidia drivers quit working. All this started after I got a new monitor (Viewsonic 1080x1600) and it started bitching about size. Usually I can just do:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
sudo nvidia-xconfig
reboot and everything is fine. It reports a screen size of 1080x1600 and Nvidia drivers working properly. This time it doesn't work. Does anybody know 1) how to fix this? and 2) Why does Ubuntu hate Nvidia?
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Post #350,357
11/9/11 5:01:31 PM
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You should really try...
Linux Mint.
LMDE if you really wanna live on the edge.
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Post #350,358
11/9/11 5:41:58 PM
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Does it like Nvidia any better?
On my Ubuntu system, I can go back to the previous kernel and everything works. I've seen this before on previous kernels when I forgot to redo the config. I suppose that this time the kernel could just really hate the Nvidia driver but I suspect stupidity somewhere (could easily be me; I've not been my best recently.)
I'm downloading the Mint version. It seems to have a live version. Might be interesting...
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Post #350,367
11/9/11 7:31:53 PM
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There are plenty less
complaints about it.
Linux Mint is *very* well pout together. In fact topped Ubuntu on popularity now on Distrowatch.
That is significant.
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Post #350,362
11/9/11 6:57:20 PM
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Check all the NVidia package versions
Using Debian, not Ubuntu, but while using the NVidia repository package, I perennially had issues where some got updated and some not. Eventually, things would break until I got all packages back on the latest version.
I have stopped using the repository packages for that reason. I prefer the pain of recompiling the driver every once in a while over chasing down a load of packages where you never even know if you got them all.
Depending on the age of your card, you could also try the open source "nouveau" driver. It is part of Xorg so would be expected to "just work".3D acceleration is not available for the newer cards but it worked very well on my previous GeForce 7600GT.
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Post #350,366
11/9/11 7:30:50 PM
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SID has...
Kernel 3.0.0-6 and nvidia v280.13.really.275.28-1+3.0.0-6
And when they update the kernel now the nvidia kernels also get updated. Seems the dep on each other.
greg@omg:~ [0] $ dpkg -l | grep -elinux-image -envidia-kernel
ii linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64 3.0.0-6 Linux 3.0.0 for 64-bit PCs
ii linux-image-amd64 3.0.0+40 Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
ii nvidia-kernel-3.0.0-2-amd64 280.13.really.275.28-1+3.0.0-6 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 3.0.0-2-amd64
ii nvidia-kernel-common 20111104+1 NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
ii nvidia-kernel-dkms 280.13.really.275.36-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
ii nvidia-kernel-source 280.13.really.275.36-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module source
Sid is a lot better put together lately. But GNOME3 can suck my balls. Gnome-Shell effectively make it unusable for me. I like my desktop the way I like it and stop forcing me to change IDIOTS! Stop push all TABLET ways of doing things.
I now use XFCE and enjoy it very much ... in fact as much as I always have and just used GNOME v2 because of post 2.8 being usable... Though XFCE4 is pretty stinking awesome.
Yves-Alexis Perez is on top of releases like Stink on Shiitake. Took him less than a day to get new versions of Risetto in place. Nice. Just freaking works now.
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Post #350,378
11/9/11 10:55:24 PM
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going OT...
I'm taking a holiday from GNOME on my work PC. Gone back to WindowMaker for a little while. (I just wish it had a module to do all the dbus shit GNOME does. Then I could use it on my laptop.)
Wade.
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Post #350,455
11/11/11 12:30:02 PM
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Re: going OT...
Try XFCE4.
It is light, quick and extremely functional. Once Ubuntu and Gnone both went to the dark side...I've switched permanently, much like Mr Folkert.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
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Post #350,514
11/13/11 1:42:39 AM
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Did a creative Google search...
Found a distro called Liquid Lemur. It has an official WindowMaker mode!
Downloading an image now...
Wade.
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Post #350,523
11/13/11 11:38:34 AM
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Dowloaded as well
Seeding now.
I'll test and let you know how it works for me on an older P4.
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Post #350,530
11/13/11 3:27:27 PM
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It's interesting.
But it's clearly an RC1.
Image does a kernel panic on my netbook. Probably because I'm booting if off a USB CD-ROM. Damn. Boots okay on my other lappy, though, into a Live Install.
I'd forgotten just how different a WindowMaker setup can get. My stars. I want to find a box to install it on. I suspect I'll end up customising it a lot.
Wade.
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Post #350,560
11/14/11 12:29:12 PM
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Very quick on a 2GB P4
Booted via CD.
I'll put a disk in and see how it likes the install
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Post #350,572
11/14/11 2:49:59 PM
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Installed, updating
2nd try.
1st time around the update trashed my X configuration.
Doing it again for consistency check.
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Post #350,581
11/14/11 3:31:46 PM
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WM iw light.
You don't need a full distro to see that! If I load WindowMaker instead of Gnome on my work Ubuntu, I get nearly a full Gb of memory back.
Wade.
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Post #350,627
11/14/11 5:23:32 PM
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Which is "better"?
If the term can be used.
XFCE or WindowsMaker?
Got a compare and contrast on them?
http://liquidlemur.org/
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Post #350,640
11/14/11 7:11:22 PM
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Haven't spent much time on XFCE.
It's the default on my MythTV box, but the vast majority of the time I'm using MythTV, not the window manager.
But XFCE strikes me as a lot more like GNOME and KDE. Window Maker's design dates from way before Linux even existed and is a style that would easily baffle if you don't know it.
Wade.
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