but in your case I don't really care what the answer is. You were ready to vote for Bachman simply to fan the flames, so I'm not sure I'll ever start to understand your thought process on this group.

Beep, on the other hand, does has a firm grasp of cause and effect and economics, even if his end result may not match mine when forcasting. And in this area, while he may have fun fanning the flames, he tries to start with a defensible position. You don't even try.

So, I'd like to know his viewpoint on the possible field.

Everything is shades of gray, until a smoking gun says the person is 100$ asshole, and a choice in one area has to be weighed against a choice in the other, at least that's how I view it.

We all have our litmus tests.