And N.A. starts moving into line with everyone else...

... <rant> which is one of my pet peeves of a number of North American internet-enabled offerings: they expect your Internet link to be unmetered. Grr. </rant>

ADSL in Au has only one problem: and it's called Telstra. Telstra are in the highly suspect position of providing raw ADSL as a wholesale service whilst also being a customer of same product. They had to be forced to sell raw ADSL to other ISPs because they wanted the whole market for their own. Unfortunately, BigPond ADSL is widely regarded as the worst ADSL provider in AU, so little wonder the ACCC got the sharp stick out and began poking. They need to keep poking because I've heard that there are no SLAs between Telstra and the ISPs so when there are problems Telstra really don't care. (Techs who have worked on the network blame all the troubles on the PPPoE Authentication equipment, BTW. If you can get an ADSL service that doesn't use PPPoE Authentication, the service is very stable, I hear.)

Naturally, none of the Telstra shareholders - including the government (specifically Senator *ack* *spit* Alston) - want to fix this.

Wade.

Post #34,922 by static 4/10/02 12:11:22 AM Reply	And N.A. starts moving into line with everyone else... ... <rant> which is one of my pet peeves of a number of North American internet-enabled offerings: they expect your Internet link to be unmetered. Grr. </rant> ADSL in Au has only one problem: and it's called Telstra. Telstra are in the highly suspect position of providing raw ADSL as a wholesale service whilst also being a customer of same product. They had to be forced to sell raw ADSL to other ISPs because they wanted the whole market for their own. Unfortunately, BigPond ADSL is widely regarded as the worst ADSL provider in AU, so little wonder the ACCC got the sharp stick out and began poking. They need to keep poking because I've heard that there are no SLAs between Telstra and the ISPs so when there are problems Telstra really don't care. (Techs who have worked on the network blame all the troubles on the PPPoE Authentication equipment, BTW. If you can get an ADSL service that doesn't use PPPoE Authentication, the service is very stable, I hear.) Naturally, none of the Telstra shareholders - including the government (specifically Senator ack spit Alston) - want to fix this. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #34,925 by Meerkat 4/10/02 12:54:59 AM Reply	It's a glowing recommendation... ...when all the Telstra ADSL ads say 'Always On'*. With the asterisk being along the lines of 'there will be outages from time to time, deal with it, we're not obliged to have this thing running 24/7.' When the ads tell you it's unreliable, you have to wonder. I haven't even enquired about getting ADSL at my place while it's in such a mess. (And due to living in an older place I expect I'd be 'pair-gained' out of ADSL access anyway...) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #34,938 by ben_tilly 4/10/02 8:05:48 AM Reply	So "always on" really means... we don't bother scheduling the downtime? Cheers, Ben "... I couldn't see how anyone could be educated by this self-propagating system in which people pass exams, teach others to pass exams, but nobody knows anything." --Richard Feynman
Post #35,047 by Meerkat 4/10/02 9:45:55 PM Reply	Good point - I like it! :) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.

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