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New AP: All US troops to leave Iraq.
http://hosted.ap.org...11-10-15-14-44-18

BAGHDAD (AP) -- The U.S. is abandoning plans to keep U.S. troops in Iraq past a year-end withdrawal deadline, The Associated Press has learned. The decision to pull out fully by January will effectively end more than eight years of U.S. involvement in the Iraq war, despite ongoing concerns about its security forces and the potential for instability.

The decision ends months of hand-wringing by U.S. officials over whether to stick to a Dec. 31 withdrawal deadline that was set in 2008 or negotiate a new security agreement to ensure that gains made and more than 4,400 American military lives lost since March 2003 do not go to waste.

In recent months, Washington has been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. A Pentagon spokesman said Saturday that no final decision has been reached about the U.S. training relationship with the Iraqi government.

But a senior Obama administration official in Washington confirmed Saturday that all American troops will leave Iraq except for about 160 active-duty soldiers attached to the U.S. Embassy.

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Hallelujah.

(via Atrios)

Cheers,
Scott.
New about time
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Correction: About DAMN time.
-Mike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New Cautiously optimisitic.
"Events could dictate..." and all that. With this administration in particular, I think a "wait and see" approach is best recommended. It could silence one criticism of him during next year's campaign though. So there is some hope at any rate.
New Without an agreement to stay, they have to leave.
Negotiations for a new agreement dragged out too long (it takes months to pull the troops and equipment out), so the decision was made by default. It's hard to see it changing now.

Of course, a new agreement could be put in place in the future, but since the US won't accept one without immunity from Iraqi laws and they refuse that condition, its hard to see that happening, either.

Violence may increase after the troops leave, but it's pretty high even with them there - http://www.google.co...&biw=1366&bih=918 - so that can't be a reason to stay.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Money is always a "reason" to stay. ;0(
If we do pull out, it will be because no one sees making a profit from staying.
New Cynical Man is cynical. ;-)
New Silly man
don't you realize its an election year?
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
New But that could play either way
     AP: All US troops to leave Iraq. - (Another Scott) - (8)
         about time -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             Correction: About DAMN time. -NT - (mvitale)
         Cautiously optimisitic. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
             Without an agreement to stay, they have to leave. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 Money is always a "reason" to stay. ;0( - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                     Cynical Man is cynical. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Silly man - (beepster) - (1)
                         But that could play either way -NT - (S1mon_Jester)

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