I like scrum for development

Post #348,027 by S1mon_Jester 9/23/11 1:03:09 AM Reply	I like scrum for development but I think it's lousy for project management (or selling to a customer). I do find that it requires a significant investment of the customer's time and experienced developers. If your developers are arguing that unit testing is worthless because it tells you only what you already know (and yes I've had that conversation, twitch). Or if your developers admit that they're not going to put this one-off project into SVN (or any other software control system)...because the files are the on server, so nothing can happen to them (another fine conversation, twitch). In those cases, I'd worry about other things than Scrum first. Those stand-up meetings can be very useful though -- daily telling your manager your blocked because he can't get off his tail to make a phone call... Besides, as a Sys-Admin...you'd be a chicken...not a pig. :-)
Post #348,029 by static 9/23/11 1:43:41 AM Reply	That's a good point. You don't want the daily stand-up meeting to be run by the Project Manager. That's the Team Leader's job. If the PM is trying to run it, then there's a development manager who isn't doing their job. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #348,047 by S1mon_Jester 9/23/11 10:00:57 AM Reply	Well Scrum was SUPPOSED to be self-organized teams. The scrum leader should be a pig, not a chicken. That said, PMP started realizing that Scrum could put them out of a job. So Scrum certification has been going on crazy and a lot of companies have PMP trying to backfit waterfall into Scrum. (Which is why I said it was poor for project management and selling to a customer. :-) )
Post #348,090 by static 9/24/11 4:47:22 AM Reply	Quite. But Project Management can happen quite successfully without roping in all the developers. One of their more useful skills is liasing between two development managers. We also found a way to "de-Waterfall" a Product Manager: it is basically stealing incomplete designs for the developers to play with :-) though this works better if he can be convinced to hand them over voluntarily. But the Project Manager has to be able to sooth ruffled feathers when the Product Manager keeps getting given suggestions to improve the design before he's "ready to release it". Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #348,111 by malraux 9/24/11 10:06:22 AM Reply	Product Managers ... shouldn't be doing designs. They should be preparing business requirements. UI designers and IAs should be doing designs. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #348,140 by static 9/24/11 5:32:57 PM Reply	Imprecise definition. By 'design' I meant Product Design, which means marshalling business rules into UX. And they have to approve the layout anyway. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/

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