it was a war to steal the wealth of the south

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9/4/11 2:03:18 PM

9/4/11 2:24:28 PM

it was a war to steal the wealth of the south

the winners succeeded in doing so
I think Bruce Catton is a good scholar of the era. His essay on the 100th anniversary of the emancipation proclamation is telling

Union armies which invaded the South confiscated or destroyed property that helped their foes baled cotton, railroad tracks, factories, stores of food, and the like. Precisely because the slave was admitted to be property, it seemed logical to remove him from his secessionist owners; quite early in the war Maj. Gen. Ben Butler announced that slaves who fled from Confederate masters were Âcontraband of warÂ and could be confiscated like other contraband, and the War Department accepted his view.

http://www.nps.gov/a...ulture/catton.htm

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Edited by boxley Sept. 4, 2011, 02:24:28 PM EDT

it was a war to steal the wealth of the south

the winners succeeded in doing so

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep

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Post #347,330

by Andrew Grygus

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9/4/11 2:26:02 PM

Really? - the wealth of the South . . .

. . was completely based on slavery. Freeing the slaves could not "steal" the wealth of the South, it just evaporated. Without slaves there was nothing to steal.

An example is the famous Carolina rice, most of which was exported to England and the rest of Europe for great profit. Growing methods were totally based on slavery, so when the slaves were freed, "Carolina" rice was no longer grown in Carolina. It is now grown primarily in Texas and Louisiana.

TNC: Black Confederates at Harvard - (Another Scott) - (56) - Sept. 2, 2011, 11:40:34 AM EDT

discuss away - (boxley) - (50) - Sept. 3, 2011, 02:41:08 PM EDT

exceptio probat regulam in casibus non exceptis -NT - (Another Scott) - (48) - Sept. 3, 2011, 03:18:41 PM EDT

corner cases do apply - (boxley) - (47) - Sept. 3, 2011, 03:57:44 PM EDT

Read it again. - (Another Scott) - (46) - Sept. 3, 2011, 04:17:42 PM EDT

I read it just fine - (boxley) - (45) - Sept. 3, 2011, 04:25:41 PM EDT

You think there were 3,000 - 10,000 black fifes in the CSA? -NT - (Another Scott) - (44) - Sept. 3, 2011, 04:32:04 PM EDT

dunno, lets take a look - (boxley) - (43) - Sept. 3, 2011, 04:53:03 PM EDT

You might want to find another source. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Sept. 3, 2011, 05:14:31 PM EDT

So the report by Lewis H Steiner. - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 3, 2011, 05:25:56 PM EDT

Occam's Razor. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 3, 2011, 05:44:31 PM EDT

Ahh, the laugh test - (crazy) - Sept. 3, 2011, 06:35:58 PM EDT

FFS are you claiming that the description - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2011, 08:46:27 PM EDT

Ok... - (Another Scott) - Sept. 3, 2011, 09:09:18 PM EDT

Another rebuttal you might like. - (Another Scott) - (36) - Sept. 3, 2011, 06:53:06 PM EDT

I will quote General Bedford Forrest in rebuttal - (boxley) - (35) - Sept. 3, 2011, 08:50:10 PM EDT

Hold on a second - (drook) - (17) - Sept. 3, 2011, 09:07:19 PM EDT

it was a war to steal the wealth of the south - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2011, 02:24:28 PM EDT

Really? - the wealth of the South . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 4, 2011, 02:26:02 PM EDT

It wasn't - (SpiceWare) - (14) - Sept. 4, 2011, 06:00:27 PM EDT

And why were the confederate states trying to secede? -NT - (drook) - (13) - Sept. 4, 2011, 07:20:53 PM EDT

why was the union stealing slaves then selling therm? - (boxley) - Sept. 4, 2011, 09:32:40 PM EDT

I don't deny that slavery was a factor - (SpiceWare) - Sept. 7, 2011, 12:04:00 AM EDT

Their Constitutional Rights were being violated by the North - (mmoffitt) - (10) - Sept. 7, 2011, 08:36:34 AM EDT

A neat, bound copy for $5 ppd?! Order 300M of the suckers. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2011, 06:53:47 PM EDT

They lost the argument. Thankfully. -NT - (Another Scott) - (8) - Sept. 7, 2011, 08:06:16 PM EDT

What argument? - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Sept. 8, 2011, 11:00:45 AM EDT

If it's so clear cut, what was Dred Scott about? - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 8, 2011, 01:02:13 PM EDT

Huh? - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 8, 2011, 03:10:30 PM EDT

doffs cap in your direction -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 8, 2011, 04:47:01 PM EDT

We live in alternate universes apparently. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 8, 2011, 06:13:05 PM EDT

Have you been reading "Disunion" in the NYTimes? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 9, 2011, 09:10:30 PM EDT

So, because he didn't do it until a year later, ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 12, 2011, 09:09:08 AM EDT

dubya actually used lincum as precedent in his argument -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 12, 2011, 09:06:29 AM EDT

Yeah, Forrest was a great man. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Sept. 3, 2011, 09:20:40 PM EDT

you mentioned lots of reporters in the war eh? - (boxley) - (9) - Sept. 4, 2011, 02:41:08 PM EDT

You're dancing around the issue. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2011, 03:41:35 PM EDT

hey thanx! you just admitted 1500 black csa troops - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2011, 06:09:08 PM EDT

Read it again. They didn't fight. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2011, 06:58:52 PM EDT

never said they did, I said they served -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 4, 2011, 09:16:02 PM EDT

You didn't answer my question. Did you miss it? - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 4, 2011, 03:48:39 PM EDT

sorry, I went back thru your links - (boxley) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2011, 06:11:20 PM EDT

One last time, then I'm done. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2011, 07:28:42 PM EDT

One last time myself - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2011, 09:30:23 PM EDT

Or as Shelby noted... - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 7, 2011, 08:48:31 AM EDT

Hmmmm . . . Doesn't say they were armed and fighting. - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Sept. 4, 2011, 02:34:16 PM EDT

so the 90 guys in iraq that support the 10 combat troops - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 4, 2011, 02:44:05 PM EDT

Yeah, they're already doing that - (drook) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2011, 03:47:40 PM EDT

we are saving money doing that? - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2011, 06:01:31 PM EDT

What's the question? - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2011, 07:25:31 PM EDT

pick one, I dont care -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 4, 2011, 09:31:02 PM EDT

(Dup.) -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 3, 2011, 03:20:30 PM EDT

For those interested - TNC has a follow-up - (Another Scott) - Sept. 5, 2011, 02:22:37 PM EDT

Jourdon Anderson writes his old boss. - (Another Scott) - (3) - May 28, 2012, 07:00:12 PM EDT

now I wonder if our lincoln would write a similar letter - (boxley) - (1) - May 28, 2012, 09:52:18 PM EDT

not a chance - (lincoln) - May 29, 2012, 09:24:30 AM EDT

Just plain Masterful.. - (Ashton) - May 28, 2012, 10:58:11 PM EDT

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