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Post #347,231 by crazy 9/2/11 9:20:17 PM Reply	Huh? Nicotine itself is not harmful and there is debate about if it's even addictive. Huh? Are these people also debating the flatness of the earth?
Post #347,233 by static 9/2/11 9:36:54 PM Reply	Sorry, I made a mistake. I didn't check my research. It is addictive but on it's own, not inordinately so. There are also documented cases of other benefits to brain function. But my point was that there is arguably more chemical danger from everything else in the cigarettes than the nicotine. Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #347,236 by Another Scott 9/2/11 9:44:11 PM Reply	That's contrary to what I think I know about it. Nicotine is extremely addictive. It's also a deadly poison in higher doses. http://en.wikipedia....icotine_poisoning Sixty milligrams of nicotine (the amount in about 30-40 cigarettes [1]), has the potential to kill an adult who is not a smoker[2] if all of the nicotine were absorbed. This figure is ~120 mg in chronic cigarette smokers, smoking an average of 20 non-light cigarettes delivering ~1.7 mg of nicotine each daily. One cigarette's-worth of nicotine is enough to make a toddler severely ill. In some cases children have become poisoned by topical medicinal creams which contain nicotine. [...] The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 0.5-1.0 mg/kg can be a lethal dosage for adult humans, and 10 mg for children[2][4]. Nicotine therefore has a high toxicity in comparison to many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which in mice has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg. A person can overdose on nicotine through a combination of nicotine patches, nicotine gum, and/or tobacco smoking at the same time. [5][6] Spilling an extremely high concentration of nicotine onto the skin can result in intoxication or even death since nicotine readily passes into the bloodstream from dermal contact.[7] HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #347,242 by crazy 9/2/11 11:37:16 PM Reply	It also DIRECTLY causes lung cell cancer Even if it shows up via the blood stream.
Post #347,243 by crazy 9/2/11 11:38:46 PM Reply	You've been brain washed by the Tobacco Institute Our country debunked all their propaganda during the lawsuits 20 years ago. Obviously the rest of the world still believes them. Wow.
Post #347,247 by static 9/3/11 7:00:37 AM Reply	You're being side-tracked. Disregard the comments about nicotine in my original post, then. It wasn't an important. The post was about the uniqueness of marijuana compared to other dangerous drugs both legal and illegal. (For whatever its worth, I saw a study some years ago that showed genuine improvements to memory and recall with nicotine, particularly absent the other chemistry from a cigarette. I'd be surprised if this was funded by the tabacco industry as it was part of a quality documentary series about the poisons we willingly ingest. That episode was about tobacco.) Wade. Static Scribblings http://staticsan.blogspot.com/
Post #347,248 by Another Scott 9/3/11 8:19:21 AM Reply	Small amounts of many things are like that. Nicotine is a stimulant similar to some other brain chemicals. In small amounts it can enhance things - http://en.wikipedia....al_nervous_system In the central nervous system Effect of nicotine on dopaminergic neurons By binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, nicotine increases the levels of several neurotransmitters - acting as a sort of "volume control". It is thought that increased levels of dopamine in the reward circuits of the brain are responsible for the euphoria and relaxation and eventual addiction caused by nicotine consumption. Nicotine has a higher affinity for acetylcholine receptors in the brain than those in skeletal muscle, though at toxic doses it can induce contractions and respiratory paralysis.[20] Nicotine's selectivity is thought to be due to a particular amino acid difference on these receptor subtypes.[21] But many other chemicals are like that - some benefits (sometimes important benefits) in small amounts while toxic in larger amounts, too. http://www.actionbio...nt/trautmann.html Cigarettes are bad. Cigarettes are primarily a nicotine delivery device because nicotine is addictive (thus cigarettes are very profitable for the manufacturers). Nicotine is too strong a poison to play up its benefits "absent the other chemistry from a cigarette" - it's not delivered that way. But one can easily argue that tobacco built America, so it's not totally black and white... My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #347,261 by crazy 9/3/11 1:22:34 PM 9/3/11 1:31:42 PM Reply	Depends if you are not an American and you are dying of lung cancer. Types the American holding the smoke filled with tobacco imported from Sweden, which was originally grown in the US. I make my poor choice with full knowledge of the danger. I met the DBA that worked for the state of FL that was in charge of the information gathering that led to the Tobacco lawsuits. While they were in the middle of the process, before they won. She was HOT! And married. Not so happily. But I didn't get anywhere with her other than hang out for a couple of days. So anyway, from an outsider's viewpoint, I'd assume they see us as a recovering crack addict. We are no longer directly addicted but we are poor. And we make money by selling addictive drugs such as tobacco and lie about them. We can't lie to the US people, and we have to put those ugly pictures and sayings on the smokes, but when we sell them outside of the country, we can say they CURE cancer if we want to! Seems ALL black to some people. Edited by crazy Sept. 3, 2011, 01:31:42 PM EDT Expand All History

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