Post #346,697
8/24/11 8:16:33 PM
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Exit Steven P. Jobs
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come. I rather thought it might be this year. I would have been gratified to be wrong.
cordially,
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Post #346,703
8/24/11 11:14:53 PM
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I wonder how that will change the vision.
Truth be told, the only Apple product I bought and loved was designed and made during Jobs' absence: a Newton Messagepad. Jobs is also on record as having intense dislike for the term "PDA". Which is kind of odd because not only have the iThing devices have ended up converging on that functionality. But it does explain why the Newton was orphaned.
(Actually, I kind of wish they would resurrect and re-image the Newton, just not as Yet Another iThing.)
Wade.
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Post #346,706
8/25/11 1:45:36 AM
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Re: I wonder how that will change the vision.
Not much will change. Tim Cook's been running the company in all but name for quite some time now.
I suspect, Wade, that your preferences will not be met by the current (profitable, successful) incarnation of Apple. There's a reasonably reliable correlation between the presence of Jobs at Apple, and Apple making money. The Newton was made at a time when Macs were beige and folks like Michael Dell felt empowered to say things like "Apple? If it were me, I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders" (or words to that effect). Those days are gone, and I find it frankly inconceivable that an organisation that is as effective as Apple would not put in place a culture and hierarchy that continues to execute on the vision.
tl;dr: meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Stock is down5% in after-hours trading, but then the markets are a pack of giant whiny babies who get spooked at the slightest thing.
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Post #346,707
8/25/11 6:44:14 AM
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I wonder if the spaceship campus is a sign of a peak.
Apple has had a great run, but every company eventually stumbles. No matter who is in charge, a company can't grow exponentially indefinitely.
The iPhone 5 is sounding very appealing to me - Sprint and T-Mobile supposedly are finally going to get it in the USA - maybe I'll finally get one before the end of the year. People generally only want one phone at a time. Markets eventually saturate. Maybe by this time next year, Apple will be growing at 5-10% a year rather than 50% a year. More like Microsoft than a startup...
Of course, when that happens, the MOTU on Wall Street will cry and cry that if only Jobs were still in charge then ....
I suspect teething problems with the new doughnut building, too. People are going to want to take shortcuts and not walk around the ring, so I suspect there is going to be pressure for spokes through the center.
It's comparable in perimeter to the Pentagon - http://multichrome.b...eship-campus.html
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #346,711
8/25/11 10:31:39 AM
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C. Northcote Parkinson anticipated you
From his 1957 collection of essays, gathered under the title Parkinson's Law: During a period of exciting discovery or progress there is no time to plan the perfect headquarters. The time for that comes later, when all the important work has been done. Perfection, we know, is finality; and finality is death. and It is by no means certain that an influential reader of this chapter could prolong the life of a dying institution merely by depriving it of its streamlined headquarters. What we can do, however, with more confidence, is to prevent any organization strangling itself at birth. Examples abound of new institutions coming into existence with a full establishment of deputy directors, consultants and executives; all these coming together in a building specially designed for their purpose. And experience proves that such an institution will die. It is choked by its own perfection. It cannot take root for lack of soil. It cannot grow naturally for it is already grown. Fruitless by its very nature, it cannot even flower. When we see an example of such planning—when we are confronted for example by the building designed for the United Nations—the experts among us shake their heads sadly, draw a sheet over the corpse, and tiptoe quietly into the open air. cordially,
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Post #346,713
8/25/11 11:35:51 AM
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Neat. Hubris is a big danger with so much money available..
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Post #346,727
8/25/11 3:07:40 PM
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I disagree
I remember my dad buying his Mac back in 1984 (Vanilla). I remember it fondly...but I also remember what happened to Apple when they kicked Jobs out.
Scully and all the others had no clue what they're doing. The only reason Apple survived is that they threw Jobs back in in a desperation move.
I don't like to claim CEO's add a lot to companies, but Apple is an exception. It'll keep running along with Cook in charge, but once Jobs is fully gone (and...) I only give it 5-10 years past it.
Personally I'd be dumping Apple stuff if I owned it.
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Post #346,744
8/25/11 5:20:49 PM
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I don't doubt you're right.
To some extent I was letting my inner Newton fanboi out for a moment. :-)
But you're right: Cook would hardly be endorsed by Jobs if he wasn't basically already doing the job.
Wade.
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Post #346,748
8/25/11 8:00:26 PM
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This article remains, I think,
the best analysis of what El Jobso brought to the party. I know I've linked to it before, but it's worth a re-read. One of many money quotes: What he's done, says John Maeda, an industrial-design specialist formerly of the MIT Media Lab and now president of the Rhode Island School of Design, is "prove that at a technology company, you don't need everyone to get it. You need one. One. It's not a democratic model; it's a model based on convergence. And convergence is not something you can make other people understand. You either understand it or you don't. And Steve Jobs understands better than anyone ever has. I have a lot of companies that call me and say, We want to make another iPod. Meaning they want it to be white. Meaning they want something that does this and this, and looks something like an iPod. But that's not how it works. The iPod looks the way it does because of what's inside. And you can't see that. Everyone's like, Steve Jobs is all about nice-looking hardware. No. He's all about the software. He can see software; that's his gift. It's tangible to him. So he's all about the invisible. He's all about making the invisible visible, about making people see what he sees. Apple products look a certain way because they have to. That's what's meant by design. Steve Jobs is not a designer, and he's not a software engineer. But he's the one who mediates between them, the one who knows that the place where the visible and the invisible meet is also the place where we go to meet both. He's the one who knows how human that place is. He's the one who makes sure it stays human." Read more: http://www.esquire.c...8-4#ixzz1W5XSA3et
cordially,
http://www.esquire.c...l/steve-jobs-1008
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Post #346,811
8/27/11 7:58:06 AM
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Wonderful quote
well said.
Thanks.
"He can see software; that's his gift. It's tangible to him. "
As a programmer and system designer and admin (when needed) I have a hint, only a hint of that, and it is certainly at the babystep level.
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Post #346,846
8/28/11 5:22:24 AM
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Maybe the most explicit and comprehensible summary, yet.
We don't know how to simulate such a capability, but his record indicates: this can't be far off the mark.
(Making him perhaps the antithesis of the stereotypical 'CEO' in Murica. Who? is even a close-second.)
Saved.
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Post #347,115
9/1/11 1:22:56 AM
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But it wasn't All Rosy on his watch..
http://www.salon.com...emium%29_7_30_110
China: Apple workers react to Steve Jobs' resignation
Factory workers who were poisoned making parts two years ago say they never heard from Jobs
BY KATHLEEN E. MCLAUGHLIN, GLOBALPOST
While he can't be held personally responsible for a Chinese sub's gross ignorance of chemistry/substituting hexane! for alcohol ... a total non-response to a direct appeal for intercession, by the afflicted: does say something about the man--besides his brilliant biz/design chops.
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Post #347,117
9/1/11 1:43:19 AM
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Re: But it wasn't All Rosy on his watch..
The bloke is a twat.
A brilliant, visionary, fascinating, genius twat.
But a twat all the same. I doubt Apple would be where they are now if his twatittude weren't of the magnitude that it is.
On the other hand, I doubt I'd be all that sympathetic if one of my subbies decided to cut corners like this; it's Wintek's management who are the evil bastards in this particular little tale, not Jobs.
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Post #347,163
9/1/11 8:09:40 PM
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We've *all* entered into a devil's pact w/China
My god, where is anything else being manufactured anymore? This is the consequence of capital's lust for cheap labor and porous borders and its natural allergy to humane regulation. China wants to bootstrap itself to economic supremacy in this century, and China's rulers have historically regarded its Teeming Millions as an easily expendable resource. Easy for us to tut-tut SJ, but as one who has been purchasing the product I find that my mouse hand is too withered to pick up that first stone.
cordially,
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Post #347,167
9/1/11 8:38:43 PM
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We're #3! We're #3! We're #3!
http://heralddaily.c...make-their-money/ (don't scroll down too far if you're at work - bar buttocks and so forth... :-/
China takes first place as the worlds largest exporter of goods, clocking in at $1.20 trillion. The Asian nation specializes in electrical equipment and machinery, power generating equipment, apparel, and iron and steel.
[...]
Exporting $1.12 trillion worth of goods, Germany ranks as the second largest exporter in the world. Exports make up a substantial part of GermanyÂs economic backbone, accounting for one third of the countryÂs annual output.
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The United States of America ranks the third largest exporter in the world with $1.05 trillion worth of exports leaving the country in 2009. America specializes in exporting capital goods such as engines, boilers and factory components.
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Japan exported $581 billion worth of goods last year, earning them the number four spot on this list. This East Asian nation specializes in passenger cars and car parts, computer accessories, video equipment and industrial machinery.
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Taking the ninth place on our list is South Korea, exporting $364 billion worth of good in 2009. The countryÂs biggest major trade partners are China, The United States, Japan, and Hong Kong. The Asian nationÂs economy relies heavily on several key exports, including automobiles, computers, and microprocessors.
[...]
Consumer electronics and cars are big, but they're not everything.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #347,189
9/2/11 8:23:08 AM
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What? No mention of corn or soybeans?
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Post #347,191
9/2/11 8:45:51 AM
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The data's out there, but may need to be digested.
E.g. http://www.census.go..._and_imports.html
It looks like agricultural exports were $96.6B in 2009.
I didn't find a good list of manufactured exports in my searching for that post. It says "goods", and it's likely that they're distinguishing between "goods" and "services" as opposed to "manufactured goods" versus all hard exports.
I dunno.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #346,801
8/26/11 9:10:44 PM
8/27/11 3:41:11 PM
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photos at eleven/updated
Here (for vultures only):
http://ll-media.tmz....2pcn-credit-1.jpg
More than a "hormonal imbalance," I fear.
cordially,
Edit: Someone makes a plausible case that the image is faked: http://i.imgur.com/WV5Y0.jpg
Others in the comments thread beg to differ.

Edited by rcareaga
Aug. 27, 2011, 03:33:11 PM EDT

Edited by rcareaga
Aug. 27, 2011, 03:41:11 PM EDT
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Post #346,803
8/26/11 9:43:32 PM
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He's beaten the odds to make it this far.
It's been clear for a long time (from his gaunt appearance at Apple events the last couple of years) that he's not in good health. He's made it 8 years after discovering he had pancreatic cancer. That's a good run, and he made the most of it professionally.
http://www.webmd.com...pancreatic-cancer
He certainly will be missed....
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #346,804
8/26/11 9:58:10 PM
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Not much farther, I fear.
V looked considerably better than that a week before she died.
cordially,
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Post #346,845
8/28/11 4:10:37 AM
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8 years is a fantastic run
pancreatic cancer is often not even detected until the final stages -- often with only a few months to live.
Final stages include back pain, extreme weight loss or gain, sugars either high or low and a few other things.
Normally the back pain is due to tumor lodging themselves into the skin of the back. It also spread elsewhere - but is known for hitting the liver. Jaundice may follow, but it's normally the attacks on the liver that kill you.
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