The Chinook crash, and little Braydon

Post #346,027 by rcareaga 8/10/11 1:27:41 AM Reply	The Chinook crash, and little Braydon Bloghwhoring here: http://urschleim.blo...ch-is-it-not.html cordially,
Post #346,029 by mhuber 8/10/11 3:32:19 AM Reply	And what of Islam in the 7th Century? I can only wish that the Muslims would get medieval on us. At that point they were the most civilized people on the planet. And not even bad by modern standards, other than we now pretend to depricate war, and they didn't. Actually, if I recall the timeline correctly, in the 7th Century they had The Man himself running the show while writing The Book. History. Not what one would expect. Even if you are a history geek. The one lesson that runs through all of it was verified by fossil remains: we haven't changed noticeably in a hell of a long time. Thog Tigerbiter, who figured out that whole fire thing had a brain the about same size as Einstein's, the cousin painting in those caves had one the same size as Picasso's (and the results were amazingly similar) and whoever figured out that whacking a hollow log with a stick makes a pleasing sound (and some hollow logs are better than others) had a brain as large as Wolfgang Amadeus'. ---------------------- Obviously, I'm guessing his or her name. --------------------------------------- Badass! (and delicious)
Post #346,036 by boxley 8/10/11 8:38:11 AM Reply	I think from 929 to 1031 was the peak of the civilization Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
Post #346,072 by rcareaga 8/10/11 10:03:06 PM Reply	Re: And what of Islam in the 7th Century? To the extent I had a college major (it's complicated) four decades ago, it was mediaeval history. And yes, Spain under the Moors was far the most civilized spot in Western Europe. The proto-Arabs to whom the Prophet addressed The Book were a savage, warlike, idolatrous lot, and required a century or so, and some dynastic oversight, before Islam became a domesticating social glue. cordially,
Post #346,061 by Ashton 8/10/11 6:27:54 PM Reply	Indifference to cause/effect can be measured, too. Naturally, I remain a fan of circumspection, especially when jingoism is called, er jingoism. Thought experiment: Determine from Google Stats (is there one?) the hits on searches for, Mark Twain "war prayer" 181k related-topics, currently. There might be a book in some intelligent mining of the stats VS current events. Isn't Mr. Clemens' query of similar scale? Yes, Muricans are quick to dissolve in puppy-love tears after such events. Until distracted by the next ad. As 'drug use' continues to be the litmus for: ~~"How Badly I Want to Escape the Murican zeitgeist" for millions, is it not clear that our dystopia is so far down [for want of a better single-word] the Corruption path, that maybe only a reformat and load from scratch, could begin the long, slow painful process of becoming an aspiring civilization, once again. As to How you erase juvenile-ingrained mythos, necessary to begin --well, we already know that computer analogies themselves: only multiply the badness of similes. Newspeak has already diminished the role of all authentic language, now spoken by decreasing minorities, as 'multitasking' brings a whole new world of distraction even-to, making a PB&J sandwich? I doubt that anyone living today has the foggiest of where inherently amoral techno is leading the world's masses; we never did attend to the question, 'We Can...Should We??', as it was always portrayed as a Luddite barrier against the Holy Entrepreneur (however unconcerned with side-effects, whether Thalidomide, the Hum-Vee-- or letting an insouciant Gawd-is-My-Copilot Fundie into the WH.) turns out, last I heard in an essay: the Problem was that, at a point in production, one of the organic chemicals was 'built' with a laevo-rotary resultant spiral rather than dextro-rotary! And that change gave us the birth defects.. Who'd a thunk? Which is, of course SOP. Glad I am completely unable to imagineer any way one might reverse a downward spiral with so much momentum, acquired over so-many years. This way I cannot be disappointed with any unpleasantness at the Bellona Club. Color me irresponsible.
Post #346,069 by Another Scott 8/10/11 9:15:58 PM Reply	OT: Maybe GoogleTrends. http://www.google.co...l&date=all&sort=0 A big spike in March 2007 which apparently is related to the release of an animated short of the same name by Markos Kounalakis in 2006. http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=IRVod4PwQHs (14:02). There seems to be too little data on the War Prayer to make any conclusions. GoogleTrends is neat if you want to see where popular memes started. Like "refudiate" and "truthiness" - http://www.google.co...l&date=all&sort=0 Unfortunately, it's too young to see how more important things have entered the public discourse. HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #346,077 by Ashton 8/11/11 5:42:36 AM Reply	Perfect delving, as usual! Loved the bugle calls intro.. same ones as played by moi countless times (usually on B-flat trumpet==more brilliant than the valveless bugle.) Yasee that big SPIKE astartin'-up in 2011?? Great Minds. Maybe some of the Intarweb folks be Gettin It? Gettin what? -- maybe.. that that Armageddon-thing is all/Only about: voluntary seppuku? Great minds may differ slightly on the Reasons--but this sucker is heading to a new relative-Maximum of hits. Just like in ... The Year of the Jackpot ?? :-0 Thanks! the YouTube effort puts it into a form for the video-only generation . Great find. Alas, pearls-before [some sorts of] swine--but sustenance for Others It shall be passed-on, F.W.I.W. Your sleuthing is a National Treasure, Scott--and I am unanimous in that. No flattery whatsoever. I Saw.. the death of The Hood! (recently linked in these parts) with that sketch of naval gun-turrets. Only 175 views since April 13 ?!!? -- this needs to reach viral status! time for mass-spamming, I wot. Xian xylophone x-ray time..
Post #346,079 by dmcarls 8/11/11 9:28:39 AM Reply	Thanks for this find, Scott Although familiar with War Prayer, I had not seen it used through videos. Well done! As far as the message of Twain's story, it's 'Be careful what you wish for". After Vietnam, an event was held called the Winter Soldier Investigation: http://en.wikipedia....ier_Investigation 109 soldiers gave testimony: http://www2.iath.vir..._49_Americal.html There is a documentary: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204058/ Aside from that event, you can read about our countries policies and mistakes: http://www.amazon.co...1313068382&sr=8-1 However, "Mainstream media all but ignored the Winter Soldier Investigation. The East Coast papers refused to cover the hearings, other than a New York Times story a week later. The local field reporter for the Times, Jerry M. Flint, commented with uninterest, "this stuff happens in all wars." I doubt that there will be any similar event regarding Iraq or Afghanistan. Thanks again, Scott.
Post #346,088 by mmoffitt 8/11/11 11:42:50 AM Reply	I suspect it might not mean much, coming from me. But that was exceptionally moving. Thank you. I was among the very few who was sickened by each and every Soviet death. God, what a horror the 1980's were.
Post #346,097 by Ashton 8/12/11 4:50:42 PM Reply	I find that each decade has its horror-[rel. maximum] Pretty much all of the 20th Century is about repetitive squandering of lives, almost as capriciously as that Evangelist-cipher guy trying to square things with Daddy--and starting an unending series of ground-war$ in ... 'Asia'. Sick species do Sick Things qed (As for the 21st Century (if anyone's around to make calendars towards its end)--stay tuned.) It's identical Bizness-as-usual, so far: nothing Learned from the last one. Nothing at all.
Post #346,158 by rcareaga 8/13/11 8:22:32 PM Reply	on the contrary, mmoffitt... I value it particularly. Ashton's seconds, while always welcome, I fear I have come to take somewhat for granted. cordially,

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