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New And after all this
he refuses to answer the questions, preferring instead to go off-topic and other such avoidance tactics.

Pointing out how the RepubliCANTS are wholly responsible for injecting their ideology into the process of raising the debt ceiling is NOT "trying to find somebody to blame", it's being factual.

http://iwt.mikevital....iwt?postid=48591

http://iwt.mikevital....iwt?postid=48850

Beep, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.






"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
Collapse Edited by lincoln Aug. 4, 2011, 07:53:28 PM EDT
And after all this
he refuses to answer the questions, preferring instead to go off-topic and other such avoidance tactics.

Pointing out how the RepubliCANTS are wholly responsible for injecting their ideology into the process of raising the debt ceiling is NOT "trying to find somebody to blame", it's being factual.




"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
Collapse Edited by lincoln Aug. 4, 2011, 07:54:39 PM EDT
And after all this
he refuses to answer the questions, preferring instead to go off-topic and other such avoidance tactics.

Pointing out how the RepubliCANTS are wholly responsible for injecting their ideology into the process of raising the debt ceiling is NOT "trying to find somebody to blame", it's being factual.

http://iwt.mikevital....iwt?postid=48591





"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from."

-- E.L. Doctorow
New This was a game played by both sides
pretending otherwise is ignoring the positions of a huge number of new hires in Washington specifically elected on the platform of "no more".

To PRETEND (which is what your doing) that this situation was the same is completely ridiculous.

To leave Obama blameless for outright rejecting short term hikes until the very end (as your posts clearly indicate was just as much standard practice as passing them) was equally responsible for taking this situation to the brink.

It just doesn't fit your world view.

It was a campaign promise that changed the balance of power in Congress. Did you honestly think they would just roll over on it?
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
     Things that make you go hmmm. - (beepster) - (50)
         Yeah, but - (S1mon_Jester) - (49)
             It's never the same - (beepster) - (48)
                 Re: It's never the same - (hnick) - (47)
                     No. Commenting - (beepster) - (46)
                         Are you kidding? Cancel a party? - (hnick) - (1)
                             One internet win there :-) -NT - (boxley)
                         Re: No. Commenting - (lincoln) - (43)
                             funny - (beepster) - (42)
                                 When the Dems "walked" - (lincoln) - (41)
                                     nope - (beepster) - (40)
                                         Re: nope - (lincoln) - (39)
                                             wow. - (beepster) - (38)
                                                 Re: wow. - (lincoln) - (1)
                                                     gee, are we there yet? - (beepster)
                                                 Way to miss the points in the post - (lincoln) - (35)
                                                     Its relevant how? - (beepster) - (34)
                                                         Where were the TPers in the first 38 years? - (lincoln) - (33)
                                                             waiting to get old enuff to collect social security - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                 That's an interesting aside. - (mmoffitt)
                                                             Yep. - (beepster) - (27)
                                                                 Still won't man up and answer the questions - (lincoln) - (26)
                                                                     still can't not resort to the default cry of racism. - (beepster) - (25)
                                                                         Come on, Beep. - (mmoffitt) - (17)
                                                                             Unpossible! -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                             no more than I will admit - (beepster) - (15)
                                                                                 Agreed. But I think you're being a bit disingenuous. - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                                                                     And I'm in the deep south.. - (beepster) - (11)
                                                                                         That's funny. I don't find that surprising. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                                                                             Flyover country is a different world to me - (crazy)
                                                                                             That also includes... - (folkert) - (4)
                                                                                                 Aye yi yi. :-( -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                 Heh.. my intro to IN-- - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                     Bloomington is not Indiana. - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                 That wasn't racism - (lincoln)
                                                                                         No you aren't! - (crazy) - (3)
                                                                                             Well, there is that... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                                 bugs you that the south isnt as racists as the north :-). - (boxley)
                                                                                                 Most of Florida isn't really deep south. - (S1mon_Jester)
                                                                                 Re: no more than I will admit - (lincoln) - (1)
                                                                                     Rush...given - (beepster)
                                                                         if you are not a democrat you are a racist by definition - (boxley) - (6)
                                                                             Hell Box, you are racist in any case... - (folkert) - (5)
                                                                                 another democrat heard from -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                                     No. I'm a registered Republican. -NT - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                                         racist -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                             U R doin' it wrong. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                                 ZOMG! U R RITE! -NT - (folkert)
                                                             ... -NT - (beepster) - (2)
                                                                 And after all this - (lincoln) - (1)
                                                                     This was a game played by both sides - (beepster)

Unfortunately, the hard part is moderation...
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