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I'm just saying that scrubbers aren't cheap, and (trying to get back on topic), the solution to high oil prices isn't drilling more. We've been round and round on that, but to recap:

1) It can take years for new wells to start producing and for that new oil to get to market. Issuing new deep water permits isn't going to do anything about gas prices in the next year or more.

2) US oil reserves are tiny. 22.3 Bbbl at the end of 2009 - http://www.eia.gov/o..._reserves/cr.html KSA claims 267 Bbbl - http://en.wikipedia....s_in_Saudi_Arabia

At 18.8 Mbbl/day, if the US only consumed its own oil, and all the reserves are produced, it would be gone in 1187 days - a little over 3 years.

Shale oil and the like aren't a near-term solution - it's dirty (and more expensive to refine), requires a lot of water - and the water and the shale are often in different places, etc. That's going to be expensive, too.

3) Oil is a global commodity. Producing more here isn't going to matter to prices if world consumption grabs that increment and more. See #2.

4) We know that the cheap oil is running out. Prices are going to rise over the long term no matter what we do.

Things can be done in the short term to punish the speculators, but the long term trend is up. We need to get off the treadmill.

The solution isn't to "drill baby drill" and spend billions on scrubbers in order to keep driving larger and larger cars and trucks, it's to do things more efficiently so that we don't need to consume so much in the first place, and to invest in ways of producing power (and portable power) that doesn't require burning stuff.

I'm not a Luddite. I simply think that assuming our future is some larger version of 1950s America is stupid. Remember this? From National Lampoon in 1972 - http://pics.livejour...mes/pic/0049dtgz/ Looks like it's about 15' wide... ;-) Another is here - http://dr-hermes.liv...l.com/480553.html

YMMV.

[edit:] crazy needs a Bossmobile. http://www.flickr.co...3/in/photostream/ Be sure to catch Bruce's TED talk too - http://www.ted.com/t...ux_nostalgia.html (12:57)

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott June 29, 2011, 10:50:38 AM EDT
New even if we went to no gas, all electric
you will still be sending hyarge amounts of c02 into the air, we need to recycle that and saying it is too expensive is poor planning
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
     heckuva energy policy brownie - (boxley) - (15)
         Laws-of-Physics ... ain't CO-2 a Bitch? -NT - (Ashton) - (11)
             no, its either a gas, liquid or solid, depends on temp - (boxley) - (10)
                 $150B for half a dozen people. Yeah, that'll work. -NT - (Another Scott) - (9)
                     you talking cap and trade costs and benefit again? -NT - (boxley) - (8)
                         No, Space Station costs and occupancy. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (7)
                             the scrubbers themselves dont cost that much - (boxley) - (6)
                                 TANSTAAFL. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                                     so when are your parents moving in with you and J? - (boxley) - (4)
                                         Physics vs Petulance: guess which wins. -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
                                             Physics vs Petulance: guess which wins. - (boxley)
                                         Eh? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             even if we went to no gas, all electric - (boxley)
         One lie in the cartoon - (lincoln) - (2)
             read it and weep demo boy - (boxley) - (1)
                 That moratorium was lifted in Oct 2010 - (altmann)

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