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New Did some searching
and that thing was dropping like a rock. Something like 10,000 ft a minute.

I had not realized that they flew INTO a thunderstorm.

http://www.theatlant...-tells-us/239598/
New Yup. ~ 120 mph down. AKA "terminal velocity" :-(
If one knows the numbers for mass, appropriate cross-sectional area, once can calculate the terminal velocity here - http://www.grc.nasa....rplane/termv.html

150 ft/sec = 100 mph.

Cheers,
Scott.
New One possible nit.
With the airbus' FBW [fly by wire] system and passive stick, the crew would have none of the force or buffet cues through the side-stick that might have told them this.

I am very far from an ATP and I know next to nothing about Airbus control systems. But, after about 9 years of hangar flying with some ATP's, it's my understanding that even fly-by-wire a/c have "shakers" in the control yokes. These are designed so that the pilot gets a physical cue that a stall is imminent. Maybe it malfunctioned or is not part of the Airbus design (if not, that, in and of itself, would be alarming).

This is very dangerous flying, I don't care who you are. In IMC, you're taught to "trust your instruments" because, well, that's the only thing that's going to tell you if you're upside down or not. It's a hell of a thing to be in hard IMC and not be able to rely on your instruments.
     Nova: 'Crash of Flight 447' -- virtuoso sleuthing - (Ashton) - (24)
         Thanks for the pointer. I'll have to watch next time. -NT - (Another Scott)
         New debris field found. - (Another Scott) - (7)
             Missed that.. thanks. - (Ashton) - (6)
                 Just a side note - (S1mon_Jester) - (5)
                     I note the availability, now of an emergency Attitude - (Ashton) - (4)
                         Well, for strictly Attitude Indicator... - (S1mon_Jester) - (3)
                             Thanks for the information. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                 While I no-AI-chops, I did run Eliza on my Otrona.. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                     Thanks for the reminder. - (Another Scott)
         Black box surfaces.. but no memory! - (Ashton) - (8)
             They found the memory unit. ~1 week+ to decode. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                 Had any thoughts about pitot tubes? - (Ashton) - (4)
                     Might be worth a try. - (Another Scott)
                     Pitot blocks shouldn't be fatal. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                         I still think it's more - (S1mon_Jester) - (1)
                             Alternate static *should* have handled that. - (mmoffitt)
             CVR found, too. If interested. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 Thanks.. 3 weeks to hear more. -NT - (Ashton)
         First reports from flight recorders. - (Another Scott) - (5)
             that sounds a lot like - (S1mon_Jester) - (4)
                 Not likely. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                     Did some searching - (S1mon_Jester) - (2)
                         Yup. ~ 120 mph down. AKA "terminal velocity" :-( - (Another Scott)
                         One possible nit. - (mmoffitt)

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