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New Never understood this sh*t
Why the bidding? Most of the things the gov buys are available at any Kmart. Buy 'em there. Put the rest thru competetive bidding with the proviso- you fuck us, we quadruple the (charged) cost out of your ass in fines.
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New Yeah, some competitive bidding doesn't make sense
You want a computer? Buy the lowest price out of a catalog from approved vendors - Gateway, Dell, Compaq, or whoever. It's not as if they'll be able to cut the government a great deal when it's such a cut-throat business anyway.

I can see where, if you want to buy a thousand office desks, it might be worthwhile asking for bids rather than going out to OfficeMax and buying at their listed price. A one rule fits all mentality aka requiring bids on everything is nutty.
"I didn't know you could drive to Europe." -- An eavesdropper, piping in when he overheard a conversation about someone who had driven to Montreal.
New As for dumb contracts...
The Australian government just paid a $31million yearly maintenance fee for some helicopters...

...which probably aren't going to be delivered 'til 2004.

Seems it didn't occur to anyone to actually read the helicopter contract in the first place...

In a word: Duh!
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New Several ways to look at it
I still work on the fringes of the business I worked directly for: mapmaking, surveying, and the like. The usual routine there was that the project went to the lowest bidder -- who, as a rule, couldn't finish it, because he'd made overoptimistic estimates of how quickly and/or well he could do the job. That was the _high_ end of the results; at the low end were the deliberate fishers for cost overruns.

I used to say that if I were ever so unfortunate as to find myself running a firm in that business, I would discharge with prejudice any employee who responded to a government Request for Bid with anything other than a copy of a form letter. The form letter would offer to do it over, correctly, for time & materials.

Boeing and the airplane companies are a special case. In the aviation industry we've got this concept called "counterfeit parts". To be fair, it arose because some fairly shabby people were selling junk -- but the result was a truly stupid law: the part has to have the manufacturer's part number, or be in the manufacturer's catalogue as a standard part. The result of that is that the quality doesn't matter. If I, not a manufacturer, produce a bolt (e.g.) of significantly better quality than standard, I can go to jail, and so can any airplane mechanic who installs one. If the airplane manufacturer goes down to the hardware store, picks up a standard, Grade 0 bolt made of Polish butter, and puts it in a plastic bag with the part number, it's a "real" part and passes all inspections. Having put this crap over, the airplane manufacturers are just cashing in. Nothing to see here, folks, move along, move along...

And if I were running a computer sales company, Government POs would go in the round file unread, let alone responded to. There ain't no way in Hell I could charge enough for the computer to pay for the paperwork, hounding, and general hassle a government purchase implies.
Regards,
Ric
     Study says feds awarding contracts without shopping around - (lincoln) - (4)
         Never understood this sh*t - (Silverlock) - (3)
             Yeah, some competitive bidding doesn't make sense - (wharris2) - (2)
                 As for dumb contracts... - (Meerkat) - (1)
                     Several ways to look at it - (Ric Locke)

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