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New 3rd explosion may have damaged a reactor vessel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843
The blast occurred at reactor 2 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, which engineers had been trying to stabilise after two other reactors exploded.

One minister has said it is "highly likely" that the rods might melt. Radiation levels near the plant have risen.

After the third explosion, officials said there were fears that the containment vessel housing the reactor may have been damaged.

Higher radiation levels were recorded on Tuesday south of Fukushima, Kyodo news agency reported.

New The more I read, the worse it sounds...
From 3/12:

http://www.scientifi...shima-core&page=2

"So there's some advantages to the BWR in terms of severe accidents. But one of the disadvantages is that the containment structure is a lightbulb-shaped steel shell that's only about 30 or 40 feet [nine to 12 meters] across—thick steel, but relatively small compared to large, dry containments like TMI. And it doesn't provide as much of an extra layer of defense from reactor accidents as containments like TMI [do]. So there is a great deal of concern that if the core does melt, the containment will not be able to survive. And if the containment doesn't survive, we have a worst-case situation."

And just what is that worst-case scenario? "They're venting in order to keep the containment vessel from failing. But if a core melts, it will slump to the bottom of the reactor vessel, probably melt through the reactor vessel onto the containment floor. It's likely to spread as a molten pool—like lava—to the edge of the steel shell and melt through. That would result in a containment failure in a matter of less than a day. It's good that it's got a better containment system than Chernobyl, but it's not as strong as most of the reactors in this country."

Finally, Bergeron summed up the events so far: "Based on what we understand, the reactor has been shut down, in the sense that all of the control rods have been inserted—which means there's no longer a nuclear reaction. But what you have to worry about is the decay heat that's still in the core—that will last for many days.

"And to keep that decay heat of the uranium from melting the core, you have to keep water on it. And the conventional sources of water, the electricity that provides the power for pumps, have failed. So they are using some very unusual methods of getting water into the core, they're using steam-driven turbines—they're operating off of the steam generated by the reactor itself.

"But even that system requires electricity in the form of batteries. And the batteries aren't designed to last this long, so they have failed by now. So we don't know exactly how they're getting water to the core or if they're getting enough water to the core. We believe, because of the release of cesium, that the core has been exposed above the water level, at least for a portion of time, and has overheated. What we really need to know is how long can they keep that water flowing. And it needs to be days to keep the core from melting.

"The containment, I believe, is still intact. But if the core does melt, that insult will probably not be sustained and the containment vessel will fail. All this, if it were to occur, would take a matter of days. What's crucial is restoring AC power. They've got to get AC power back to the plant to be able to control it. And I'm sure they're working on it."


Cheers,
Scott.
New Fire engines
Can't find the link right now, but that is apparently how they are pumping the water in. It's also why one of the cores ended up getting uncovered: the pumper ran out of gas. The fire suppressing pumps of the turbine halls are also being used but some of those have been damaged by the explosions.

The worry is that they may not be able to source enough diesel to keep the pumps going due to the broken supply chain and shortages elsewhere.
New Yup.
http://english.chosu...011031500630.html

When the cooling system at the reactor broke down, TEPCO used fire engines to pump seawater into the reactor to cool the rods, but the pump malfunctioned, causing most of the fuel rods to be exposed. If exposed to air, fuel rods overheat and melt, releasing radioactive materials into the atmosphere.

TEPCO said it cannot rule out a meltdown due to the exposure of the fuel rods but is bringing the temperature down again by injecting seawater. It added since the reactor is contained by an outer structure there is "no possibility of a worst-case accident."

Japanese broadcaster NHK reported the pumps stopped flushing seawater into the reactor after running out of fuel when a plant official who was operating the pumps left his seat to monitor something else.


(I'd be surprised if it really came down to one person getting up to go to the toilet (or whatever).)

NHK has an English page with information that is probably more timely than the big English news sites - http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who wonders how much worse it will be in the morning...)

     8.9 magnitude earthquake off NE Japan. Tsunami. - (Another Scott) - (69)
         Nuclear plant can't cool down correctly, evacuation ordered - (jay) - (3)
             It sounds quite serious. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Yup, it's quite serious... - (Another Scott)
             Situation looks like it's still getting worse - (jay)
         Continuing coverage after 2nd explosion at Fukushima plant - (Ashton) - (22)
             Really great timing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 Have you seen or heard this? - (Another Scott)
             Cooling at 3rd reactor fails after explosion damages pumps - (jay) - (3)
                 “They’re basically in a full-scale panic” - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Re:They’re basically in a full-scale panic - (boxley) - (1)
                         I'm not so sanguine. - (Another Scott)
             Counter to the prevailing hysteria: - (malraux) - (15)
                 I wish I was all-seeing like Lewis Page. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                     there is a bed of graphite under the containment vessel - (boxley) - (5)
                         It'll stop going down, but maybe not out in the air... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             but there's still a significant chance of... - (folkert) - (3)
                                 Yes, they're not exposed graphite piles. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     Demonstrably, their major error re all the diesels was: - (Ashton)
                                     Well... okay, here goes. - (folkert)
                     More Lewis Page. - (malraux) - (7)
                         Evidently the panic is just that... Panic. - (folkert) - (6)
                             Local news has started berating the coverage. - (static)
                             I wouldn't say "ignored" - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                 I don't believe that was a sigh, Mr. F. -NT - (beepster)
                                 Exactly. - (Ashton)
                                 Since you like Lewis so much... - (malraux) - (1)
                                     Rofl. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         3rd explosion may have damaged a reactor vessel - (scoenye) - (3)
             The more I read, the worse it sounds... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Fire engines - (scoenye) - (1)
                     Yup. - (Another Scott)
         More on GE BWR designs - (Another Scott) - (2)
             We're sitting on one - (scoenye) - (1)
                 :-( - (Another Scott)
         "It's worse than a meltdown" - (Another Scott) - (2)
             have you purchased the solar panels for your leccy car? - (boxley) - (1)
                 Non sequitur - (Another Scott)
         Something is Strange here.. - (Ashton) - (10)
             It seems they can't. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 drift chart - (boxley) - (2)
                     Getting us back for WWII? -NT - (folkert)
                     Well, if nuclear power isn't dead yet in the U.S. . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             I didn't address the fuel storage areas before, obviously. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 Aye, TMI (info, not 3Mi-Island) of generic kind - (Ashton) - (3)
                     Thanks. - (Another Scott)
                     NYT answers to selected Qs submitted yesterday - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Good Q&A. Would be nice if more reporting was like that... -NT - (Another Scott)
             It's the spent fuel containment pools - (jay)
         Recommended news sites, etc. - (Another Scott) - (8)
             Plus, Bulletin Atom. Sci. chimes in - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
             One more - (scoenye) - (4)
                 Reuters has something similar. - (Another Scott)
                 Some radiation levels.. and unit comparisons - (Ashton) - (2)
                     The MIT NSE site has some good info, too. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         If still not suffering from tmi? Oildrum limns mondo links - (Ashton)
             Somewhat related - (Steve Lowe)
         The possibility of re-criticality is not zero - (scoenye) - (1)
             Yikes. - (Another Scott)
         Japan raises incident threat level again - (jay)
         NYTimes summary page of reactor and fuel storage status. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Re TEPCO credibility - (Ashton)
         Japan Quake Map. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             Wow! what a clever, informative scary piece of work.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Not quite the same, but the USGS has ANSS - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Thanks.. looking. - (Ashton)
         Bulletin. At. Sci. daily reports - (Ashton) - (1)
             Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Latest on Fukushima from the NYTimes. - (Another Scott)

Didn't they bury this game in Mexico or something?
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