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New 8.9 magnitude earthquake off NE Japan. Tsunami.
http://www.nytimes.c...me&pagewanted=all

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Nuclear plant can't cool down correctly, evacuation ordered
http://www.cnn.com/2...11/japan.nuclear/
Officials ordered an evacuation Friday of residents living near a Japanese nuclear power plant, saying there has been no sign yet of leaks but indicating a struggle to "cool down" the facility.

An 8.9-magnitude earthquake led to cooling problems at one nuclear power plant and a fire at another, both of which were close to the quake's epicenter, government officials said.

Late Friday, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters that people within 2 to 3 kilometers (1.2 to 1.8 miles) of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant had been told to leave the area. Those farther away -- within 3 to 10 kilometers -- were asked to stay home. Japan's Kyodo News Agency estimated that the evacuation order directly affected about 3,000 people.

"This is a precautionary instruction for people to evacuate," Edano said. "There is no radioactive leakage at this moment outside of the facility."

The Fukushima Daiichi is shut down, but because of the damage it isn't cooling properly and it is threatening to overheat.

Jay
New It sounds quite serious.
http://mdn.mainichi....0m0dm010000c.html

TOKYO (AP) -- Japan declared states of emergency for five nuclear reactors at two power plants after the units lost cooling ability in the aftermath of Friday's powerful earthquake. Thousands of residents were evacuated as workers struggled to get the reactors under control to prevent meltdowns.

Operators at the Fukushima Daiichi plant's Unit 1 scrambled ferociously to tamp down heat and pressure inside the reactor after the 8.9 magnitude quake and the tsunami that followed cut off electricity to the site and disabled emergency generators, knocking out the main cooling system.

Some 3,000 people within two miles (three kilometers) of the plant were urged to leave their homes, but the evacuation zone was more than tripled to 6.2 miles (10 kilometers) after authorities detected eight times the normal radiation levels outside the facility and 1,000 times normal inside Unit 1's control room.

The government declared a state of emergency at the Daiichi unit -- the first at a nuclear plant in Japan's history. But hours later, the Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operates the six-reactor Daiichi site in northeastern Japan, announced that it had lost cooling ability at a second reactor there and three units at its nearby Fukushima Daini site.

The government quickly declared states of emergency for those units, too. Nearly 14,000 people living near the two power plants were ordered to evacuate.

Japan's nuclear safety agency said the situation was most dire at Fukushima Daiichi's Unit 1, where pressure had risen to twice what is consider the normal level. The International Atomic Energy Agency said in a statement that diesel generators that normally would have kept cooling systems running at Fukushima Daiichi had been disabled by tsunami flooding.

Officials at the Daiichi facility began venting radioactive vapors from the unit to relieve pressure inside the reactor case. The loss of electricity had delayed that effort for several hours.

Plant workers there labored to cool down the reactor core, but there was no prospect for immediate success. They were temporarily cooling the reactor with a secondary system, but it wasn't working as well as the primary one, according to Yuji Kakizaki, an official at the Japanese nuclear safety agency.

Even once a reactor is shut down, radioactive byproducts give off heat that can ultimately produce volatile hydrogen gas, melt radioactive fuel, or even breach the containment building in a full meltdown belching radioactivity into the surroundings, according to technical and government authorities.

Despite plans for the intentional release of radioactivity, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said the 40-year-old plant was not leaking radiation.

"With evacuation in place and the ocean-bound wind, we can ensure the safety," Edano said at a televised news conference early Saturday.

[...]

Kakizaki, the safety agency official, said the emergency cooling system is intact and could kick in as a last line of defense. "That's as a last resort, and we have not reached that stage yet," he added.

Defense Ministry official Ippo Maeyama said dozens of troops trained for chemical disasters had been dispatched to the plant in case of a radiation leak, along with four vehicles designed for use in atomic, biological and chemical warfare.

Technical experts said the plant would presumably have hours, but probably not days, to try to stabilize things.

Leonard S. Spector, director of the Washington office of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, said loss of coolant is the most serious type of accident at a nuclear power plant.

"They are busy trying to get coolant to the core area," said Neil Sheehan, a spokesman for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. "The big thing is trying to get power to the cooling systems."

High-pressure pumps can temporarily cool a reactor in this state with battery power, even when electricity is down, according to Arnold Gundersen, a nuclear engineer who used to work in the U.S. nuclear industry. They can open and close relief valves needed to control pressure. Batteries would go dead within hours but could be replaced.

The IAEA said "mobile electricity supplies" had arrived at the Daiichi plant. It wasn't clear if they were generators or batteries.

It also was not immediately clear how closely the reactor had moved toward dangerous pressure or temperature levels. If temperatures were to keep rising to more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, it could set off a chemical reaction that begins to embrittle the metallic zirconium that sheathes the radioactive uranium fuel.

That reaction releases hydrogen, which can explode when cooling water finally floods back into the reactor. That was also concern for a time during the 1979 Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania.

If the reactor temperature keeps reaches around 4,000 degrees, the fuel could melt outright, and the reactor could slump right into the bottom of the containment building in a partial meltdown. Then the crucial question would be whether the building would stay intact.

[...]


Fingers crossed. :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Yup, it's quite serious...
http://www.nytimes.c...13nuclear.html?hp

WASHINGTON — An explosion at a nuclear power plant in northern Japan on Saturday blew the roof off one building, brought down walls and caused a radiation leak of unspecified proportions, Japanese officials said, after Friday’s huge earthquake caused critical failures in the plant’s cooling system.

Television images showed a huge cloud of white-gray smoke from the explosion. Soon afterward, government officials said an evacuation zone around the plant had been doubled, to 12 miles.

The chief cabinet secretary, Yukio Edano, confirmed earlier news reports of an explosion at the Fukishima Daiichi nuclear plant, 15o miles north of Tokyo, saying: “We are looking into the cause and the situation and we’ll make that public when we have further information.” He was speaking amid fears that a disastrous meltdown could be imminent after critical cooling failures at that plant and another nearby, Daini, after both were shut down.

Images on Japanese television showed that the walls of one building had crumbled, leaving only a skeletal metal frame standing with smoke billowing from the plant. The Associated Press reported that the damaged building housed a nuclear reactor, though that report was not immediately verified by nuclear officials. The cause of the explosion was unclear, with some experts speculating that it may have resulted from a hydrogen build-up.

[...]

Officials said even before the explosion that they had detected cesium, an indication that some of the fuel was already damaged.

In the form found in reactors, radioactive cesium is a fragment of a uranium atom that has been split. In normal operations, some radioactivity in the cooling water is inevitable, because neutrons, the sub-atomic particles that carry on the chain reaction, hit hydrogen and oxygen atoms in the water and make those radioactive. But cesium, which persists far longer in the environment, comes from the fuel itself.

Naoto Sekimura, a professor at Tokyo University, told NHK, Japan’s public broadcaster, that “only a small portion of the fuel has been melted. But the plant is shut down already, and being cooled down. Most of the fuel is contained in the plant case, so I would like to ask people to be calm.”

[...]


People shouldn't panic, but these officials and nuclear experts need to stop talking as if what is happening is no big deal. It is a big deal.

Brad Friedman has a running blog on the issue with pictures, etc. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8391 Don't take initial reports as being Gospel.

Japan's Nuclear Safety Agency has a web page with lists of incidents, failures to follow procedures, etc., for their plants up through 2010. Tokyo Electric Power's Fukushima plants are here:

http://www2.jnes.go...._power_index.html
http://www2.jnes.go...._power_index.html

While the listed issues usually aren't frequent, they don't give one a great feeling...

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Situation looks like it's still getting worse
http://edition.cnn.c...n.nuclear/?hpt=T2
Battered by a terrifying earthquake, exhausted from days of battling a spiralling nuclear crisis, and aware that their loved ones were only miles from the crippled facility, the exhausted workers at the Fukushima No 1 plant must have hoped a new day would finally bring respite.

Instead, Tuesday dawned with the outbreak of fire at a fourth unit – the start of a chain of events in which their worst fears appeared to be coming true.

More than 90 hours after the earthquake and tsunami battered Japan's north-east, shutting off the Fukushima plant and halting its cooling systems, workers learned that radiation at the facility had hit a level harmful to human health.

Hundreds of non-essential personnel were shipped off-site after the blaze, knowing that they were leaving behind dozens of colleagues risking permanent damage to their health. The gravity of the situation emerged a few hours later when Naoto Kan, the Japanese prime minister, addressed the nation.

Radiation in the reactor complex has reached the point that the crew had to be pulled out except for a small emergency operations staff. The fire at the 4th unit was put out, but damage at the other three reactors continues to spread. Open air exposure of the nuclear rods or spent fuel rods seems to have occurred, and it's just a question of how far the radiation will spread. Melt down remains possible, but becomes less likely with time as the reactors cool down.

On the scale of disaster, this is still between TMI and Chernobyl, but getting closer to Chernobyl. It is still unlikely to be worse then Chernobyl, but it remains possible if one of the reactors containment units fail.

Jay
New Continuing coverage after 2nd explosion at Fukushima plant
Globe and Mail:
http://www.theglobea...1940219/comments/

Some unusually well-informed/ept commenters within the 300+
Note that one troubled unit (#3) uses MOX, a mixture of U/Pu. Unclear from my limited reactor lore of the temp/danger ranges, including cladding etc. in a LOCA/loss-of-cooling accident event re that mix.

Reuters, as linked from a commenter above:
http://live.reuters....Japan_earthquake2

Real-time blog re. the now several marginally-cooled reactors in Japan


I concur with a poster re the unusually high quality of technical design and execution of these plants, but also with the characterization of typ. minimalising of govt. reports, a cultural more.
My geiger counters await the jetstream of coming days :-/

YPB ... ...


New Really great timing.
Some guy's letter to the Wall Street Journal saying what we need is a whole lot more nuclear power plants was published the morning of the first explosion.
New Have you seen or heard this?
http://ok-cleek.com/blogs/?p=11727

I want to assume he misspoke, but man... :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Cooling at 3rd reactor fails after explosion damages pumps
http://www.washingto...Bk6rQV_story.html
Japan’s nuclear crisis deepened Monday as utility officials reported that four out of five pumps being used to flood the unit 2 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi complex had failed and that the other pump had briefly stopped working, hastening the meltdown of fuel rods that at one point were fully exposed.

This is turning into a nasty cascade of disasters. The explosion at the number 3 reactor damaged the pumps at the number 2 reactor, which up until that point had been under control. The fuel rods at the number 2 reactor where exposed to the air for a while, and partially melted.

At the 40-year-old Fukushima Daiichi unit 1, where an explosion Saturday destroyed a building housing the reactor, the spent fuel pool, in accordance with General Electric’s design, is placed above the reactor. Tokyo Electric said it was trying to figure out how to maintain water levels in the pools, indicating that the normal safety systems there had failed, too. Failure to keep adequate water levels in a pool would lead to a catastrophic fire, said nuclear experts, some of whom think that unit 1’s pool may now be outside.

That is ugly. Considering the explosion at the number 1 reactor, you would have to assume that the water pool has failed by now, and the whole thing is a major disaster waiting to happen.

And really, who though putting the storage tank for used fuel above a reactor chamber was a good idea? It might have been convenient because it reduced the distance the rods need to go, but the obvious danger of multiply the disaster if something goes wrong should have ruled it out.

Jay
New “They’re basically in a full-scale panic”
http://www.nytimes.c...15nuclear.html?hp

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re:They’re basically in a full-scale panic
http://bravenewclima...mple-explanation/
drl sent this
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New I'm not so sanguine.
Bottom line: Until people get inside the reactor, we don't know how much stuff melted. But there clearly has been melting for cesium and iodine to be released. Melting of the fuel rods is a very bad thing.

http://en.wikipedia....Configuration.jpg from http://en.wikipedia....e_Island_accident

Radioactive material release

Once the first line of containment is breached during a reactor plant accident, there is a possibility that the fuel or the fission products held inside can be released into the environment. Although the zirconium fuel cladding has been breached in other nuclear reactors without generating a release to the environment, at TMI-2 operators permitted fission products to leave the other containment barriers in a matter of minutes.[citation needed] However, since very little of the fission products released were solids at room temperature, very little radiological contamination was reported in the environment. No significant level of radiation was attributed to the TMI-2 accident outside of the TMI-2 facility. Noble gases made up the bulk of the release of radioactive materials from TMI-2, with the next most abundant element being iodine.

Within hours of the accident the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) began daily sampling of the environment at the three stations closest to the plant. By April 1, continuous monitoring at 11 stations was established and was expanded to 31 stations two days later. An inter-agency analysis concluded that the accident did not raise radioactivity far enough above background levels to cause even one additional cancer death among the people in the area. The EPA found no contamination in water, soil, sediment or plant samples.[28]

Researchers at nearby Dickinson College, which had radiation monitoring equipment sensitive enough to detect Chinese atmospheric atomic weapons testing, collected soil samples from the area for the ensuing two weeks and detected no elevated levels of radioactivity, except after rainfalls (likely due to natural radon plate out, not the accident).[29] Also, white-tailed deer tongues harvested over 50 mi (80 km) from the reactor subsequent to the accident were found to have significantly higher levels of Cs-137 than in deer in the counties immediately surrounding the power plant. Even then, the elevated levels were still below those seen in deer in other parts of the country during the height of atmospheric weapons testing.[30] Had there been elevated releases of radioactivity, increased levels of Iodine-131 and Cesium-137 would have been expected to be detected in cattle and goat's milk samples. Yet elevated levels were not found.[31]


(Emphasis added.)

If we're to believe the reports, radioactive cesium and iodine have already been detected in Japan, so one could infer that what has happened to the core is worse than what happened at TMI. That's just an inference at this point, though.

I don't expect the steel reactor vessel to fail, but the folks who designed and who are working on the reactor obviously didn't expect to have so much trouble keeping it filled with water, either...

In the near term, the longer this goes on without them being able to flood the core, the more risk there is of large radioactivity releases.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Counter to the prevailing hysteria:
http://www.theregist...ushiima_analysis/
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New I wish I was all-seeing like Lewis Page.
All reactors' temperature is now under control and the residual heat reactions inside them continue to die away; soon, no further cooling will be required.


Hooray!

That's why they're all going on long vacations now, I guess.

Oh, wait... http://www.nytimes.c...15nuclear.html?hp

The plant’s operator, Tokyo Electric Power, said late Monday that efforts to inject seawater into the reactor had failed.

[...]

The company said water levels were not immediately rising to the desired level, possibly because of a leak in the containment vessel. Still, a Tokyo Electric official said the situation was improving.

"We do not feel that a critical event is imminent," he told a press conference.


Well that's comforting. They feel it's not imminent... :-/

We'll all have to wait and see, with fingers crossed, to see how this turns out.

Cheers,
Scott.
New there is a bed of graphite under the containment vessel
so even if it melts the floor it is not going anywhere
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New It'll stop going down, but maybe not out in the air...
Hot things have a habit of ending up in the air when they're forced to cool down rapidly.

Again, I don't expect the containment vessel to fail in a major way, but there's still a significant chance of a lot of radioactivity being released. Everything isn't "under control" no matter how many nuclear engineers say there's nothing to worry about.

Cheers,
Scott.
New but there's still a significant chance of...
You dieing in the next 100 years.

Come on Scott... these weren't Russian Power Plants. There were designed by Anal Retentive Japanese Engineers and GE engineers that thought they were crazy for the over engineering they were doing.
New Yes, they're not exposed graphite piles.
Yes, the steel pressure vessel is probably going to hold. At least, mostly.

But they guys in Tokyo who are in "full-scale panic" are probably in a better position to know what's going on and how bad things are than a writer for TheReg in the UK.

The plant is 40 years old. It doesn't have the latest safety measures that many later plants have. At least one reactor was scheduled to be shut down this month. Who knows whether some important maintenance was put off as being unnecessary or not cost-effective.

http://en.wikipedia...._nuclear_accident

Even anal-retentive engineers and maintenance technicians make mistakes. These TEPCO plants have had some issues in the past - http://www2.jnes.go...._power_index.html and http://www2.jnes.go...._power_index.html

All commercial nuclear plants that have suffered major accidents have experienced things that the designers didn't intend or didn't consider. That's the nature of complex engineering projects. Perhaps the steel containment vessel will perform admirably for all of these at-risk reactors. I suspect and hope that they will. But I'm not at all pleased by all of the "everything's fine, it's working as designed, it's no big deal, what's everyone upset about" attitude in much of the reporting on this. This is a big deal and wasn't supposed to happen. The safety measures were supposed to ensure that the fuel rods didn't suffer from lack of coolant even in severe circumstances.

The world needs to get off of burning stuff for power and transportation. Nuclear should probably have a larger role, but it's not at all clear to me that large-scale power reactors are the way to go. There comes a point where there are too many conceivable failure mechanisms that could result in large enough probability of vast contamination of the environment for the technology to be economically viable.

The Shuttle solid-rocket booster O-rings had a 100% "safety margin" when they were half burned through, too... We know how that turned out. :-(

The nuclear advocates out there in the press need to take what's happening to TEPCO's plants seriously. They shouldn't take the concerns as being fears of Luddites who don't know any better. If this disaster gets even a little bit worse, it may spell the end of commercial nuclear power plants in the democratic world. A substantial fraction of the population (and maybe a majority) has to support it for it to go forward, and they won't if there are continued explosions and stories in the press that the operators can't do what they say they need to do - no matter what people who "know better" say.

"Who you gonna believe? Me, or your own lying eyes?"

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Demonstrably, their major error re all the diesels was:
>> NOT putting the fuel tanks UNDERGROUND!<<
(As in US and most other places, I presume: this would seem to be a real Brain-Fart within an otherwise punctilious/conservative design approach elsewhere.)

Tsunami is a Japanese word! and earthquakes are their daily bugaboo. Above-ground tanks supplying their
BACKUP
(only ONE! == another error) for the absolutely necessary mondo core-cooling pumps is, in hindsight:
absolutely an inexcusable Duhh-grade oversight. Pity..

For those being queried about 'reactors', One more Time -- save your breath:
here's a video by a avuncular Brit physicist, reviewing the BASICS, including the role of Boron in the control rods and various other simple concepts of the sort,
always mangled by Murican-HS-edjakated talking heads, who majored in bizness.

http://www.youtube.c...tch?v=-bcrLiATLq0

As to the 'mood' of Japanese boffins du jour; I seriously doubt that they are in panic-mode -- rather they are fully aware of what Might.. occur if even a few hasty/stupid actions were to be taken, next.
Clearly the infusion of sea water has forever decommissioned each reactor where used: all SS parts shall have been corroded and filled with micro-cracks via Cl and other ions at v. high temps
-- beyond any hope of salvage. Fortunately these reactors were already scheduled for denouement after 40 years of decent service.

Concur that any Cs, I-131 etc. came from some spot in core where the Zr cladding had disintegrated
(probable source point for voluminous H generation for the explosions)
-- but How Many grams/kilos really did melt??
More disturbing is the inability to raise the sea-water level to cover fully the entire core == SOON.

WHY?? It is almost unthinkable that there exists already a sizable hole at bottom of containment vessel, and surely they have opened other valves
so that the incoming sea-water is not merely compressing any gases within -- that's the Q I want to see an answer to. Should be forthcoming within hours, I'd think.

Luck to Nippon..

New Well... okay, here goes.
The reason they are in Full panic mode... is that even though they *KNOW* what to do and have practiced it a bah-million time, its for real this time.

a Relevant but not close to scale case is this:

The first time I had a REAL server down on my hands and I was 1500 miles away from (rather than 10 minutes driving), I was effectively nearly paralyzed with "How am I going to fix this?"

The Latest one where a bad hard drive was swapped out (no problems there) and a new drive swapped in (lotsa problems there), caused SCSI bus errors all over the place... and then taking 4 hours to find the latent software bug... all in wanting to repair a Failed Drive in a mirrored array...

Was calm and talking the whole way.

Its a matter of being calm, cool, collected and well trained. That makes the big difference.

Panic just doesn't make a situation good... anytime.
New More Lewis Page.
http://www.theregist...fukushima_friday/
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Evidently the panic is just that... Panic.
But I'm sure just like Lews, that people will scaremonger.

Heck the last core was completed in 1976. The ones around here are that old.

Come on... lets all take a collectively sigh of relief...

Huh AS?

The whole Earthquake and Tsunami devastation has been largely ignored. The big story of that has been ignored.
New Local news has started berating the coverage.
For the last three days, ABC news reports have pointed out the greater problem of so many people homeless or just plain missing.

Wade.

Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers?
A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
New I wouldn't say "ignored"
There's lots of news every day in the places I read about the earthquake and tsunami aftermath. Not so much about many other important stories - like unemployment (as Krugman pointed out today).

The Fukushima story is big news because it may have direct world-wide impact, and because it is about an invisible danger (and thus is scarier). People can and do disagree about the extent of the risk - even within the nuclear field.

Lewis's piece is yet again premature and over-sold. Nobody knows how much damage has been done to the plants. Nobody knows if the water pumps will work. Nobody knows the ultimate amount of radiation that will be released. (It took 4 years before they got a camera in the TMI core...)

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.

New I don't believe that was a sigh, Mr. F.
Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
New Exactly.
Lewis' summary sentence, The prospect of any trouble at these reactors now seems remote. -- betrays his general incompetence to evaluate anything in this field.
And his reliance on PEPCO briefs indicates absence of a healthy skepticism of the company's press releases [for culture-based reasons] -- as has been pointed out in many more competent essays.

Details Matter, each one -- like (as you mentioned earlier) ... the near-term results of all that sea water and its known debilitating effects on strength of steel/alloys of various kind
PLUS the thermal insulating properties of the brine salts themselves! being deposited: exactly what you Don't want to have to deal with,
given the decay curves of ALL those individual fuel rods, in-core or in-pools.

Yeah, they might dodge this howitzer shell despite all those Damocles' swords, but it Ain't Over in the foreseeable,
nor will there be a decent understanding of each reactor's denouement for years, if ever.
(Better not take 4 years, in 2011, to get a fiber optic camera in there!)

(And as somewhere else I read.. wtf Are?? the Rad-resistant Robots! given Japan's obsession with such things.)
First robot would be modeled on a bulldozer, to clear a path for the specialized models. Etc.
Sheesh ... ain't smug complacency A Bitch?
New Since you like Lewis so much...
http://www.theregist..._after_weekend_2/

:-)
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Rofl. :-)
New 3rd explosion may have damaged a reactor vessel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843
The blast occurred at reactor 2 at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, which engineers had been trying to stabilise after two other reactors exploded.

One minister has said it is "highly likely" that the rods might melt. Radiation levels near the plant have risen.

After the third explosion, officials said there were fears that the containment vessel housing the reactor may have been damaged.

Higher radiation levels were recorded on Tuesday south of Fukushima, Kyodo news agency reported.

New The more I read, the worse it sounds...
From 3/12:

http://www.scientifi...shima-core&page=2

"So there's some advantages to the BWR in terms of severe accidents. But one of the disadvantages is that the containment structure is a lightbulb-shaped steel shell that's only about 30 or 40 feet [nine to 12 meters] across—thick steel, but relatively small compared to large, dry containments like TMI. And it doesn't provide as much of an extra layer of defense from reactor accidents as containments like TMI [do]. So there is a great deal of concern that if the core does melt, the containment will not be able to survive. And if the containment doesn't survive, we have a worst-case situation."

And just what is that worst-case scenario? "They're venting in order to keep the containment vessel from failing. But if a core melts, it will slump to the bottom of the reactor vessel, probably melt through the reactor vessel onto the containment floor. It's likely to spread as a molten pool—like lava—to the edge of the steel shell and melt through. That would result in a containment failure in a matter of less than a day. It's good that it's got a better containment system than Chernobyl, but it's not as strong as most of the reactors in this country."

Finally, Bergeron summed up the events so far: "Based on what we understand, the reactor has been shut down, in the sense that all of the control rods have been inserted—which means there's no longer a nuclear reaction. But what you have to worry about is the decay heat that's still in the core—that will last for many days.

"And to keep that decay heat of the uranium from melting the core, you have to keep water on it. And the conventional sources of water, the electricity that provides the power for pumps, have failed. So they are using some very unusual methods of getting water into the core, they're using steam-driven turbines—they're operating off of the steam generated by the reactor itself.

"But even that system requires electricity in the form of batteries. And the batteries aren't designed to last this long, so they have failed by now. So we don't know exactly how they're getting water to the core or if they're getting enough water to the core. We believe, because of the release of cesium, that the core has been exposed above the water level, at least for a portion of time, and has overheated. What we really need to know is how long can they keep that water flowing. And it needs to be days to keep the core from melting.

"The containment, I believe, is still intact. But if the core does melt, that insult will probably not be sustained and the containment vessel will fail. All this, if it were to occur, would take a matter of days. What's crucial is restoring AC power. They've got to get AC power back to the plant to be able to control it. And I'm sure they're working on it."


Cheers,
Scott.
New Fire engines
Can't find the link right now, but that is apparently how they are pumping the water in. It's also why one of the cores ended up getting uncovered: the pumper ran out of gas. The fire suppressing pumps of the turbine halls are also being used but some of those have been damaged by the explosions.

The worry is that they may not be able to source enough diesel to keep the pumps going due to the broken supply chain and shortages elsewhere.
New Yup.
http://english.chosu...011031500630.html

When the cooling system at the reactor broke down, TEPCO used fire engines to pump seawater into the reactor to cool the rods, but the pump malfunctioned, causing most of the fuel rods to be exposed. If exposed to air, fuel rods overheat and melt, releasing radioactive materials into the atmosphere.

TEPCO said it cannot rule out a meltdown due to the exposure of the fuel rods but is bringing the temperature down again by injecting seawater. It added since the reactor is contained by an outer structure there is "no possibility of a worst-case accident."

Japanese broadcaster NHK reported the pumps stopped flushing seawater into the reactor after running out of fuel when a plant official who was operating the pumps left his seat to monitor something else.


(I'd be surprised if it really came down to one person getting up to go to the toilet (or whatever).)

NHK has an English page with information that is probably more timely than the big English news sites - http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who wonders how much worse it will be in the morning...)

New More on GE BWR designs
http://taxdollars.oc...with-japan/77797/

UPDATED 03/14/11 at 3:00 PM with more details from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant.

There are 23 nuclear power plants operating in the U.S. using the same General Electric Mark 1 reactors as the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant that suffered a hydrogen explosion on Saturday  and another early Monday, according to a fact sheet released by the Nuclear Information and Resource Service, a Maryland-based nuclear power watchdog group.

This design has been criticized by nuclear experts and Nuclear Regulatory Commission staff for decades as being susceptible to explosion and containment failure.

In particular, experts say, if the cooling system is compromised plant operators are faced with the choice of releasing radioactive steam from the containment vessel in order to cool it and prevent a meltdown of the fuel rods at the core, which could result in the vessel rupturing and releasing a disastrous amount of radiation.


Cheers,
Scott.
New We're sitting on one
Local legislature is trying to shut it down, NRC and the operator are trying to get another 20 years out of it.

The scariest part about this one is that management is either totally incompetent or criminally negligent. Every word they utter is contradicted days later by something falling off the plant, springing a leak, etc.

Managment has been running a FUD campaign for months now promising that our electrical rates will go through the roof if the plant is shut down. Most of their electricity goes out of state already, plus they were going to charge VT utilities more than a premium for the privilege of getting some.
New :-(
Nuclear plants run fine until they don't. :-(

I suspect those plants will be phased out sooner than the utilities want, but of course the rate payers will bear the brunt of the costs no matter what.

Hang in there.

Cheers,
Scott.
New "It's worse than a meltdown"
http://www.nytimes.c.../asia/15fuel.html

Even as workers race to prevent the radioactive cores of the damaged nuclear reactors in Japan from melting down, concerns are growing that nearby pools holding spent fuel rods could pose an even greater danger.

The pools, which sit on the top level of the reactor buildings and keep spent fuel submerged in water, have lost their cooling systems and the Japanese have been unable to take emergency steps because of the multiplying crises.

The threat is that the hot fuel will boil away the cooling water and catch fire, spreading radioactive materials far and wide in dangerous clouds.

The good news is that the Japanese have a relatively long time to deal with the problem. Nuclear experts estimate the timeline for serious problems that could lead to a reactor meltdown as minutes to hours, and put the comparable time for cooling pools at days to weeks.

The bad news is that if efforts to deal with the emergency fail, the results could be worse.

The pools are a worry at the stricken reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant because at least two of the three have lost their roofs in explosions, exposing the spent fuel pools to the atmosphere. By contrast, reactors have strong containment vessels that stand a better chance of bottling up radiation from a meltdown of the fuel in the reactor core.

Were the spent fuel rods in the pools to catch fire, nuclear experts say, the high heat would loft the radiation in clouds that would spread the radioactivity.


:-/

Cheers,
Scott.
(Who wonders if Lewis Page still feels that "Fukushima is a triumph for nuke power: Build more reactors now!")
New have you purchased the solar panels for your leccy car?
didnt think so
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Non sequitur
But you knew that.

:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Something is Strange here..
It is intuitively obvious even to a techno-illiterate: via bucket brigade, fire hoses or borrowed helicopters from US or other ships converging:

GET MORE WATER INTO THOSE POOLS, STAT!

Talking doesn't cook the rice -- Shinto too, likely has an equivalent koan.
And yes, some heroic overexposures, maybe to the 100 REM / I Sievert dose level are likely unavoidable.
Many Pripyat folks made a larger sacrifice, fully aware of the ~440 REM MLD (median lethal whole-body dose)
-- handling actual KiloRad-hot pieces with inadequate, up-close tools ... or gloved hands.

[Unless, of course, they have run out of All Options re China Syndrome in-reactor probabilities, in their informed opinions.]

Yet, considering the number of Mega-Curies of awfulness within that pool (adjacent to an empty reactor)
-- consisting of n- core-loads of accumulated fission products:
the storage pool still qualifies for all last-ditch efforts to submerge those suckers, even at $10/gallon delivery overhead.

I don't understand this level of impotent inactivity, at all.
New It seems they can't.
Either they can't reduce the pressure in the reactors enough to pump water in, or there's a blockage, or there's a big leak. Or all 3.

What I picture happening is a combination of things:

1) There's hot fuel in the reactor because of a drop in water level. Some of the fuel rods have melted.
2) They vent the excess pressure, leading to even more water boiling away (lower pressure means easier boiling).
3) They pump in water, which instantly turns to steam when it contacts the hot fuel rods, increasing the pressure and making it more difficult to pump more water in.
4) Goto 2.

What I haven't heard anyone talk about is: How effective are the control rods when they're embedded in molten fuel rods? Obviously, it's difficult for water to get to the center of a hot blob of metal, but isn't there also danger of some increased level of fission reactions starting up again since the control rods can't do their job?

IOW, under normal circumstances the reactor cools down in a few days once it's been "scrammed". Does that still hold if the fuel rods have melted?

My understanding is that the control rods "suck up" neutrons and stop the fission chain reaction by reducing the number below a self-sustaining level. But the control rods are designed to be a certain distance from the fuel, or in other words, the fuel rods are supposed to be a certain distance from their neighbors, to control the fission reaction. If everything's melted together, there's nothing to control the reaction (with the important caveat being lack of a moderator to slow the neutrons down), so even if the reaction won't be efficient, it can still heat up the fuel even more (more U atoms are closer together than designed), causing more melting, etc., etc.

I haven't seen anyone talk about that, and it bothers me.

In other accidents (TMI, the Fermi breeder outside Detroit), the core partially melted, so there must be some way (in principle) to prevent it from running away or staying hot for decades. But in those cases, 1) they weren't BWRs, and 2) they didn't suffer loss of coolant anywhere near as severe as some of these TEPCO reactors apparently have. How much of that history transfers here?

I don't envy the folks working there. :-(

Keep an eye on the prevailing winds, all of you West-Coasters.... :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New drift chart
http://10373f8b.tinylinks.co/
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 55 years. meep
New Getting us back for WWII?
New Well, if nuclear power isn't dead yet in the U.S. . . .
. . 750 rads on the coast of California will certainly do the job.
New I didn't address the fuel storage areas before, obviously.
http://www3.nhk.or.j...nglish/16_05.html

TEPCO: Spraying water from air "difficult"

Tokyo Electric Power has found it difficult to spray water from a helicopter to cool down a storage pool for spent nuclear fuel inside the No.4 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

The reactor was undergoing an inspection when the quake occurred. The firm says the temperature of the storage pool for spent nuclear fuel was 84 degrees Celsius on Monday morning, more than double the normal level. More recent temperatures are not available due to a technical failure.

On Tuesday morning, an explosion was heard and the roof of the building that houses the No.4 reactor was damaged. Tokyo Electric Power, the operator of the plant, says it appears a lack of coolant caused the fuel rods to be exposed, adding that a hydrogen explosion might have occurred.
If the reactor can't be cooled, the fuel rods may emit hydrogen or melt down. Tokyo Electric Power considering pouring water onto the storage pool in the containment vessel through a hole on the roof created by the blast.

However, the firm concluded that it would be extremely difficult to spray water from a helicopter as the hole is dozens of meters from the storage pool and a helicopter can only carry a limited amount of water on a single flight.

Workers are currently unable to approach the storage pool due to the high radiation levels. Tokyo Electric Company is studying the possibility of using fire engines and other options to inject water into the reactor.

Wednesday, March 16, 2011 03:04 +0900 (JST)


TEPCO apparently presented a paper in November on how they do wet-storage and dry-storage of fuel bundles. http://www.nirs.org/...-1_powerpoint.pdf (26 page .pdf) Most of it is over my head, but it sounds like there's a lot of fuel being stored there, and they recently "upgraded" Fukushima-Daiichi Unit 1-6 to let them store even more...

- Increase the capacity of spent fuel pools by re-racking
- Installation of common spent fuel pool
- Installation of dry cask storage facility


Aye Carumba!

:-(

The wet storage facility is in slides 9-11.

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Aye, TMI (info, not 3Mi-Island) of generic kind
-- way too little from which one can deduce useful things.
Understandably, the sorts of details we'd like some accurate info about just won't happen until in retrospect;
neither time nor patience to bring in a sci-literate 'scribe + camera' to get the words out. Bring your own floodlights and lunch?

Among the minefield of unknowns: whether the tsunami immersion so screwed up pumps, temp/px monitoring sensors, hyd. actuators and controllers
-- that even were a US flattop to bring in a self-contained AC power unit via a huge Huey:
Would much of the stuff and its controlling electronics still function?
But how such things as, say the Px-relief valves in the torus? can be operated at all without AC power from Somewhere?
-- I don't grok (either.)

As to intermixed Boron and elephant feet blobs, it seems a mares nest of not-calculable cross-sections;
if cooling of the blob-surfaces could.. be accomplished, then further neutron absorption could come from concentrated borate slurries, one supposes.
No need to ponder moderators and spacings, I'd think: what you want is lots of the best n-absorbing substance available. By express Lear Jet.

But this is rapidly ceasing to be an enviro where a robot could eat the Rads, even to haul a fire-hose end up to a steaming pool, given a debris-covered floor
(We don't even know if any? many? of these pools' 'containment integrity' has been compromised)
And it seems that TEPCO's workers/mgment have also PO'd the government minions, having failed to inform of the 6am-ish most recent fire, for some hours.
Who's not leveling with whom?

Apparently it was machine lube oil which was burning at #6 following the (alleged) release of nascent-H via water + overheated Zircalloy spent-rod cladding, that which caused that explosion.


Watch and wait..

PS:
NYT is collecting (intelligent) questions today, to be 'answered' tomorrow by whatever selection of boffins they have managed to corral:
http://green.blogs.n...n-japan/?ref=asia

Some noticed, appear to be al punte ... re several of those puntes.

Expand Edited by Ashton March 15, 2011, 11:07:35 PM EDT
New Thanks.
The BBC is reporting that a government spokesman said the 50 remaining workers are being withdrawn (Temporarily? Who knows...) due to excessively high radiation levels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...-pacific-12755739

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New NYT answers to selected Qs submitted yesterday
http://green.blogs.n...-crisis-in-japan/

Seems to be in (expected) decent English, without garbling of concepts ... on a quick scan of replies.
FWIW
New Good Q&A. Would be nice if more reporting was like that...
New It's the spent fuel containment pools
I'm guessing the reactors are all cooling now, and they just need to wait till they cool enough. The problem now seems to be the containment pools for spent fuel. These pools are elevated above the reactor, so if the pools are damaged there isn't a simple way to fix it. They don't want to just dump water from above because the whole building might break up.

The fire at the number 4 reactor almost has to be burning fuel rods. That reactor was not only off-line but had the fuel rods removed from the reactor when the disaster hit, so the only thing there to be spewing radiation is the spent fuel rods.

As ugly as it would be, I think they are going to have to ask for volunteers to go in and deal with it. They are going to need fire fighting crews and engineering teams to jury rig repairs. It's going to be a suicide mission, but it's probably the only way now.

Jay
New Recommended news sites, etc.
http://www.jaif.or.j...vent-status-1.pdf - 1 page .PDF summary table from TEPCO.

http://mitnse.com/ - Clear, dispassionate descriptions of various happenings from MIT.

http://english.kyodo...n_nuclear_crisis/ - Quick news summaries from Kyodo News in Japan. Can be a bit breathless.

http://www3.nhk.or.j...nglish/index.html - NHK's English web page, a bit less breathless than Kyodo.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org - Seems to mostly aggregate news from other sources.

http://bravenewclimate.com/ - Lots of 'nothing can go wrong' commentary mixed in with good technical information.

http://en.wikipedia....clear_Power_Plant - An excellent, well-documented Wikipedia page.

http://www.digitalgl...e+Imagery+Gallery - DigitalGlobe's sample satellite images of the Fukushima reactor complex, tsunami damage, etc. And their Flickr page - http://www.flickr.co...italglobe-imagery

Some more details about the various fuel storage pools is in a 2 page .PDF at NEI - http://resources.nei...ols_Key_Facts.pdf

If you haven't seen this picture from TEPCO, it might help explain the working conditions there. Reactor 3's building (on the left, reactor 4 is on the right) is a hulk now - http://resources2.ne...japan-reactor.jpg

:-(

(Many links via Brad DeLong's blog)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Plus, Bulletin Atom. Sci. chimes in
http://thebulletin.o...-reactor-meltdown
New Thanks.
New One more
http://www.demorgen.be

Yep, not in English ;-). The Live link has a minute by minute update log. The chunks are small enough for Google Translate.
New Reuters has something similar.
http://live.reuters....Japan_earthquake2

I find it too distracting when there are lots of updates, but I appreciate that they're doing it.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Some radiation levels.. and unit comparisons
http://www.nytimes.c...ion.html?ref=asia

As usual, a bit of a fubar in that the ordinate(y) axis seems to be indicated at right, implicitly also for some of the reference 'levels'
-- but it's labelled 'millisieverts/hr' re. levels around the plant -- and the scripted refs refer to a dosage, NOT a rate. Correct via brain.

As to the new zoo of furrin RAD equivalents, Grays, Sieverts -- all made clear at:
http://www.stevequay...d.conversion.html

Brief but al punte: explains RAD, REM, Gray and Sievert.
And if it gets to a 'core dump' (no not IT) ... ... the unit will be the Curie, actually mega-that, in worst case.
One Curie is 3.7 x 10 [E10] disintegrations/sec. That's ~ the disintegrations/sec for one Gram of Ra-226.

All you need to remember is that 1 Sievert == 100 REM aka 'Röntgen Equivalent Man'
-- which fiddles the difference between an air irradiated enviro and human meat's response to various particles or wavicles at their emitted energy. Nothing is really simple..

Hope there's some *boron* in those helicopter water drops ... ...
New The MIT NSE site has some good info, too.
It was off-line much of yesterday, but seems back up today.

http://mitnse.com/20...us-for-fukushima/ (It also has that NYTimes graph.)

Some are saying (can't recall where) that the seawater drops, even if they're helping now (which isn't at all clear to me), eventually are going to stop working due to salt coating the fuel rods (hampering the cooling)... :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New If still not suffering from tmi? Oildrum limns mondo links
with his selected comments
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7669

But recent news of DRY! pools
(or even just ONE == Adjacent Houses of Cards)

... words fail :-///
New Somewhat related
Interactive map of Nuke sites and quake data:
http://reporting.sun...long-fault-lines/
New The possibility of re-criticality is not zero
Ick! That would be the scariest LRPD quote ever...

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ironment-12762608

If you are in any doubt as to what this means, it is that in the company's view, it is possible that enough fissile uranium is present in the cooling pond in enough density to form a critical mass - meaning that a nuclear fission chain reaction could start.


Apparently, the pools are overstuffed and the boron disappeared with the water. Now they're concerned that adding water may moderate neutron speed enough to restart fission.
New Yikes.
Given the way the fates have played with this plant over the last few days, one certainly can't rule much of anything out... :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Japan raises incident threat level again
http://in.reuters.co...ia-55686820110318
The entry gave the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi site a level 5 rating, up from level 4 previously on a 1-7 scale.

That would suggest a level of seriousness on par with the Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979.

The threat level seems just a tad understated. A situation that is confirmed by the head of the US NCR giving a much bleaker assessment.
http://www.nytimes.c...ear.html?ref=asia
Mr. Jaczko’s most startling assertion was that there was now little or no water in the pool storing spent nuclear fuel at the No. 4 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, leaving fuel rods stored there exposed and bleeding radiation into the atmosphere.

As a result, he said, “We believe that radiation levels are extremely high, which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures.”

His statement was quickly but not definitively rebutted by officials of Tokyo Electric Power, the Daiichi’s plant’s operator, and Japan’s nuclear regulatory agency.

“We can’t get inside to check, but we’ve been carefully watching the building’s environs, and there has not been any particular problem,” Hajime Motojuku, a spokesman for Tokyo Electric, said Thursday morning in Japan.


Jay
New NYTimes summary page of reactor and fuel storage status.
http://www.nytimes.c...rs-status.html?hp

Doesn't sound like its under control to me, but Lewis Page may read it differently...

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re TEPCO credibility
http://search.japant...nn20110319b1.html



Lapses, coverups color public view of nuclear plants
Fukushima crisis latest in long line of fiascoes

By YURI KAGEYAMA
The Associated Press
Behind the escalating nuclear crisis sits a scandal-ridden energy industry in a cozy relationship with government regulators, who are often willing to overlook safety lapses.

Leaks of radioactive steam and workers contaminated with radiation are just part of the disturbing catalog of accidents that have occurred over the years and been belatedly reported to the public, if at all.

In one case, workers hand-mixed uranium in stainless steel buckets, instead of processing it by machine, so the fuel could be reused, exposing hundreds of workers to radiation. Two later died.

"Everything is a secret," said Kei Sugaoka, a former nuclear power plant engineer in Japan who now lives in California. "There's not enough transparency in the industry."

Sugaoka worked at the same utility that runs the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, where workers are racing to prevent a full meltdown following the March 11 9.0-magnitude quake and tsunami.

In 1989, Sugaoka received an order that horrified him: Edit out footage showing cracks in plant steam pipes in video being submitted to regulators. Sugaoka alerted his superiors in Tokyo Electric Power Co., but nothing happened — for years. He decided to go public in 2000, and three Tepco executives lost their jobs.

The legacy of scandals and coverups over Japan's half-century reliance on nuclear power has strained its credibility with the public. That mistrust has been renewed this past week with the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 plant. No evidence has emerged of officials hiding information in this catastrophe, but the vagueness and scarcity of details offered by the government and Tepco — and news that seems to grow worse each day — are fueling public anger and frustration.

"We don't know what is true. That makes us worried," said Taku Harada, chief executive of the Tokyo-based Internet startup Orinoco. Harada said his many American friends are being urged to leave the capital, while the Japanese government continues to say the area is safe, probably to avoid triggering panic.

The difference is unsettling, he said. He has rented an office in Osaka, 400 km to the southwest, to give his 12 employees the option of leaving Tokyo.

"We still don't know the long-term effects of radiation," he said. "That's a big question."

Tepco official Takeshi Makigami said experts are doing their utmost to bring the reactors under control.

"We are doing all that is possible," he told reporters.

The government threw its support into nuclear power following World War II, worried that overdependence on imported oil could undermine Japan's burgeoning economy, and the industry boomed in profile and influence. The country has 54 nuclear plants, which provide 30 percent of the nation's energy needs, is building two more and studying proposals for a further 12.

Before the earthquake and tsunami that triggered the Fukushima crisis and sent the economy reeling, Japan's 11 utilities, many of them nuclear plant operators, were worth $139 billion on the stock market.

Tepco — the utility that supplies power for Tokyo — accounted for nearly a third of that market capitalization, but its shares have been battered since the disasters, falling 65 percent over the past week to ¥759 Thursday. Last month, it got a boost from the government, which renewed authorization for Tepco to operate Fukushima's 40-year-old reactor No. 1 for another 10 years.

With such strong government support and a culture that ordinarily frowns upon dissent, regulators tend not to push for rigorous safety, said Amory Lovins, an expert on energy policy and founder of the Rocky Mountain Institute.

"You add all that up and it's a recipe for people to cut corners in operation and regulation," Lovins said.

The United States, Japan's close ally, has also raised questions about the coziness between Japanese regulators and industry and implicitly questioned Tokyo's forthrightness over the Fukushima crisis. The director of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the U.S. ambassador this week issued bleaker assessments about the dangers at the plant than the Japanese government or Tepco.

Competence and transparency issues aside, some say it's just too dangerous to build nuclear plants in an earthquake-prone nation like Japan, where land can liquefy during a major temblor.

"You're building on a heap of tofu," said Philip White of Tokyo-based Citizens' Nuclear Information Center, a group of scientists and activists who have opposed nuclear power since 1975.

"There is absolutely no reason to trust them," he said of those that run the nuclear power plants.

Japan is haunted by memories of past nuclear accidents:

[. . .]



Obviously, Murican corporations have no monopoly on greed-head coverups and dissembling; vulture capitalism seems to be the common thread wherever simple-Corruption is the daily MO of poorly- or un- regulated ethics-free enterprises.

(As Charles Ferguson [Inside Job] queried, on a recent Commonwealth Club presentation on NPR:
~~ Where has any legal action yet been commenced re the provably-criminal activities (now increasingly documented) re top members of many of the US Finance corps??)

ie. those which floated the scummiest of the faux-offerings / then bet against the crap they had sold their customers, apparently with AIG at the top of this odious heap, but the others contributing their own scams towards inevitable System Failure.

Summary according to moi, just now: Anybody who thinks that the Worst.. at Fukushima has today been rendered impossible ... has been listening to uninformed wishful amateurs.
IWErs of course, already Know what can go wrong go wrong with complex machines of the non-radioactive kind.
I have my own tales of such machines and similar screwups with radiation producing devices of another sort than reactors.
(At least, we could turn Ours OFF..)

New Japan Quake Map.
A neat web page showing the time and intensity (above 4.5M or so) of earthquakes around Japan since March 11 (11/03/11). (651 is the total number at the moment.)

http://www.japanquakemap.com/

Start with March 11 (around midnight) and watch carefully....

Wow. :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Wow! what a clever, informative scary piece of work..
(Tufte would be proud, natch.)

This looks to be built by same folks who made an earlier encountered radiological map I came across.
(Wherein the prefectures with blank/violet #s, adjacent to Fuku'shima, were labeled 'Surveying-(something)')
And within the sidebar was mentioned, "== censored" -- as explanation!!
Honest duplicity; is Murican corruption half-way there?

Would like to see a similar animation re our local Fault (Rodgers) ... which is never inactive, but they're all small. So far..

Does this not suggest prompting a local habit twixt geologists and meeja, to cover similarly our many Faults
-- escalating the notice.. where groans are becoming almost audible?
Yeah.. who'll pay for that / and by running what kind of Ads?

Never mind.
New Not quite the same, but the USGS has ANSS
http://quake.geo.ber.../seismograms.html

http://earthquake.us....39.-123.-121.php

UC Berkeley info - http://quake.geo.ber.../seismograms.html

HTH. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Thanks.. looking.
Developer of above map and the Christchurch NZ original: Paul Nicholls of NZ
http://www.elm.cante...le/nicholls.shtml

New Bulletin. At. Sci. daily reports
http://www.thebullet...aily-update-japan


Daily update from Japan
BY TATSUJIRO SUZUKI | 23 MARCH 2011
Wednesday, March 23, 10:30 p.m. ET, Tokyo

Black smoke was observed at unit 3; this forced workers to evacuate and terminate their efforts to recover power to this unit. The reason for the smoke is not yet known.

A high radiation level (500 millisieverts) was detected at unit 2, making work at the unit very difficult.



(Previous days' reports below that, plus some essays free to non-subscribers are available.)

50 RADS/hr emissions, though unstated is Where in Unit 3, like -?- the control room or 2" from the primary enclosure?

The beat goes on.. with UNIX MAN-style factoids emitted sans elaboration. Confidence-inspiring.

New Thanks.
New Latest on Fukushima from the NYTimes.
http://www.nytimes.c...lear.html?_r=1&hp

Richard T. Lahey Jr., who was General Electric’s chief of safety research for boiling-water reactors when the company installed them at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, said that as seawater was pumped into the reactors and boiled away, it left more and more salt behind.

He estimates that 57,000 pounds of salt have accumulated in Reactor No. 1 and 99,000 pounds apiece in Reactors No. 2 and 3, which are larger.

The big question is how much of that salt is still mixed with water and how much now forms a crust on the reactors’ uranium fuel rods. Chemical crusts on uranium fuel rods have been a problem for years at nuclear plants.

Crusts insulate the rods from the water and allow them to heat up. If the crusts are thick enough, they can block water from circulating between the fuel rods at all. As the rods heat up, their zirconium cladding can ignite, which may cause the uranium inside to melt and release radioactive material.

[...]

Preventing the reactors and storage pools from overheating through radioactive decay would go a long way toward limiting radioactive contamination. But that would require pumping a lot of cold freshwater through them, which is not easily done.

The emergency cooling system pump and motor for a boiling-water reactor are roughly the size and height of a compact hatchback car standing on its back bumper. The powerful system has the capacity to propel thousands of gallons of water a minute throughout a reactor pressure vessel and storage pool. But that very power can also be the system’s Achilles’ heel.

The pump and piping are designed to be kept full of water. But they tend to leak and develop alternating pockets of air and water, said Mr. Friedlander, who said he had performed maintenance on the systems many times in his career.

If the pump is turned on without venting the air and draining the water, the water from the pump would hit the alternating pockets with enough force to blow holes in the piping. Venting the air and draining the water requires a technician to reach a dozen valves, sometimes using a ladder. The water is removed through a hose to the nearest drain, usually in the floor, that leads to machinery designed to remove radiation from the water.

The process takes a full 12 hours in a reactor that is operating normally, Mr. Friedlander said. But even then, the water in the pipes tends to become radioactively contaminated because the valves that separate it from the reactor are never entirely tight.

It is likely to be an even bigger problem when the water inside the reactor is much more radioactive than usual and is under extremely high pressure, as it has been in all three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant at various times since the earthquake and tsunami.

Japanese government and power company officials expressed optimism on Wednesday morning that the crisis was close to being brought under control, only to encounter two reminders in the afternoon of the unpredictable difficulties that lie ahead.

Fukushima Daiichi’s Reactor No. 3 began belching black smoke for an hour late in the afternoon, leading its operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, to evacuate workers. No. 3 is considered one of the most dangerous of the reactors because of its fuel — mixed oxides, or mox, which contain a mixture of uranium and plutonium and can produce a more dangerous radioactive plume if scattered by fire or explosions. The cooling system at Reactor No. 5, which was shut down at the time of the earthquake and has shown few problems since, also abruptly stopped working on Wednesday afternoon, said Hiro Hasegawa, a spokesman for Tokyo Electric.

“When we switched from the temporary pump, it automatically switched off,” he said. “We’ll try again with a new pump in the morning.”


This is a long way from being over. Unfortunately. :-(

Naturally, Mr. Page's latest missive (from Tuesday) continues to put the best possible spin on events there - http://www.theregist...ushima_tuesday_2/ ...

Cheers,
Scott.
     8.9 magnitude earthquake off NE Japan. Tsunami. - (Another Scott) - (69)
         Nuclear plant can't cool down correctly, evacuation ordered - (jay) - (3)
             It sounds quite serious. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Yup, it's quite serious... - (Another Scott)
             Situation looks like it's still getting worse - (jay)
         Continuing coverage after 2nd explosion at Fukushima plant - (Ashton) - (22)
             Really great timing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 Have you seen or heard this? - (Another Scott)
             Cooling at 3rd reactor fails after explosion damages pumps - (jay) - (3)
                 “They’re basically in a full-scale panic” - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Re:They’re basically in a full-scale panic - (boxley) - (1)
                         I'm not so sanguine. - (Another Scott)
             Counter to the prevailing hysteria: - (malraux) - (15)
                 I wish I was all-seeing like Lewis Page. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                     there is a bed of graphite under the containment vessel - (boxley) - (5)
                         It'll stop going down, but maybe not out in the air... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             but there's still a significant chance of... - (folkert) - (3)
                                 Yes, they're not exposed graphite piles. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                     Demonstrably, their major error re all the diesels was: - (Ashton)
                                     Well... okay, here goes. - (folkert)
                     More Lewis Page. - (malraux) - (7)
                         Evidently the panic is just that... Panic. - (folkert) - (6)
                             Local news has started berating the coverage. - (static)
                             I wouldn't say "ignored" - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                 I don't believe that was a sigh, Mr. F. -NT - (beepster)
                                 Exactly. - (Ashton)
                                 Since you like Lewis so much... - (malraux) - (1)
                                     Rofl. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         3rd explosion may have damaged a reactor vessel - (scoenye) - (3)
             The more I read, the worse it sounds... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Fire engines - (scoenye) - (1)
                     Yup. - (Another Scott)
         More on GE BWR designs - (Another Scott) - (2)
             We're sitting on one - (scoenye) - (1)
                 :-( - (Another Scott)
         "It's worse than a meltdown" - (Another Scott) - (2)
             have you purchased the solar panels for your leccy car? - (boxley) - (1)
                 Non sequitur - (Another Scott)
         Something is Strange here.. - (Ashton) - (10)
             It seems they can't. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 drift chart - (boxley) - (2)
                     Getting us back for WWII? -NT - (folkert)
                     Well, if nuclear power isn't dead yet in the U.S. . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             I didn't address the fuel storage areas before, obviously. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 Aye, TMI (info, not 3Mi-Island) of generic kind - (Ashton) - (3)
                     Thanks. - (Another Scott)
                     NYT answers to selected Qs submitted yesterday - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Good Q&A. Would be nice if more reporting was like that... -NT - (Another Scott)
             It's the spent fuel containment pools - (jay)
         Recommended news sites, etc. - (Another Scott) - (8)
             Plus, Bulletin Atom. Sci. chimes in - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
             One more - (scoenye) - (4)
                 Reuters has something similar. - (Another Scott)
                 Some radiation levels.. and unit comparisons - (Ashton) - (2)
                     The MIT NSE site has some good info, too. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         If still not suffering from tmi? Oildrum limns mondo links - (Ashton)
             Somewhat related - (Steve Lowe)
         The possibility of re-criticality is not zero - (scoenye) - (1)
             Yikes. - (Another Scott)
         Japan raises incident threat level again - (jay)
         NYTimes summary page of reactor and fuel storage status. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Re TEPCO credibility - (Ashton)
         Japan Quake Map. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             Wow! what a clever, informative scary piece of work.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Not quite the same, but the USGS has ANSS - (Another Scott) - (1)
                     Thanks.. looking. - (Ashton)
         Bulletin. At. Sci. daily reports - (Ashton) - (1)
             Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Latest on Fukushima from the NYTimes. - (Another Scott)

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