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Post #333,145 by drook 9/26/10 9:19:37 AM Reply	You're still fixing the wrong problem Banks submitted paperwork that wasn't true. I'm not "favoring the banks" no matter how many times you say it. I'm not "trusting the banks to get it right", I'm saying that should be required by law with appropriate penalties when they're wrong. -- Drew
Post #333,147 by beepster 9/26/10 10:30:07 AM Reply	Re: You're still fixing the wrong problem and what appropriate penalties would those be that would necessarily also apply to all plaintiffs in all civil trials..and how would this not destroy the court system any less than advocating a check of official record in specific instance of where lenders try to confiscate property unopposed. Sure, understanding today's complex world of the future is a little like having bees live in your head. But...there they are.
Post #333,156 by drook 9/26/10 11:54:19 AM 9/26/10 11:54:34 AM Reply	They already do Are you aware of a trend of plaintiffs in some other area of law habitually and repeatedly submitting inaccurate documents and not being sanctioned for it? Second issue: Why in this case are you saying that this change "would necessarily also apply to all plaintiffs in all civil trials", but your suggestion to task the courts with doing their own research would not apply to all courts in all civil trials? -- Drew Edited by drook Sept. 26, 2010, 11:54:34 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #333,161 by folkert 9/26/10 2:19:52 PM Reply	Look at SCO v IBM. SCO v Novell. SCO v AutoZone... SCO v Chrysler

The magic of the marketplace at work. - (Another Scott) - (116) - Sept. 23, 2010, 10:12:14 AM EDT

Nice job - (drook) - (87) - Sept. 23, 2010, 10:59:11 AM EDT

Hmmm - (beepster) - (86) - Sept. 23, 2010, 11:41:33 AM EDT

Some hints. - (Another Scott) - (85) - Sept. 23, 2010, 12:12:24 PM EDT

So you are blaming the banks.. - (beepster) - (9) - Sept. 23, 2010, 01:15:06 PM EDT

Where was "Tax Assessor" in that story? - (drook) - (8) - Sept. 23, 2010, 01:33:57 PM EDT

as a former real property title recorder - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2010, 01:39:16 PM EDT

I knew that - (drook) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:05:01 PM EDT

What do you think they appraise them for, anyway? - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:03:15 PM EDT

"I don't know what's involved, so it must be easy." - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:11:59 PM EDT

sigh - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:29:40 PM EDT

Scott pointed out half the problem, same as me - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:42:14 PM EDT

You are missing it here. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:55:09 PM EDT

nit - (boxley) - Sept. 23, 2010, 04:27:04 PM EDT

Two (and-a-half) issues - (drook) - (74) - Sept. 23, 2010, 01:16:34 PM EDT

Re: Two (and-a-half) issues - (beepster) - (73) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:10:18 PM EDT

Um, it's my understanding... - (Another Scott) - (70) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:19:12 PM EDT

What I think... - (beepster) - (69) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:39:45 PM EDT

<sigh> - (Another Scott) - (50) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:41:19 PM EDT

And why is their no fault - (beepster) - (49) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:43:11 PM EDT

It's not their job - (drook) - (48) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:47:08 PM EDT

Not even remotely - (beepster) - (47) - Sept. 23, 2010, 03:01:59 PM EDT

I see the solution! - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2010, 03:10:11 PM EDT

Now you trust the government to be perfect? - (drook) - (45) - Sept. 23, 2010, 03:29:42 PM EDT

:-) Thank you. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2010, 03:39:25 PM EDT

sigh - (beepster) - (43) - Sept. 24, 2010, 07:21:13 AM EDT

Try to keep up, I'll type slow - (drook) - (42) - Sept. 24, 2010, 08:30:51 AM EDT

who needs to type slow, I wot... - (beepster) - (41) - Sept. 24, 2010, 09:25:48 AM EDT

The court is not a party in a civil case. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:09:31 AM EDT

No I'm not. - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:30:01 AM EDT

You're waving your hands around about a perfect world. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Sept. 24, 2010, 11:18:44 AM EDT

Re: You're waving your hands around about a perfect world. - (beepster) - (11) - Sept. 24, 2010, 12:09:26 PM EDT

You're still not getting it. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Sept. 24, 2010, 12:48:35 PM EDT

Simple question. You still didn't answer. - (beepster) - (9) - Sept. 24, 2010, 01:46:35 PM EDT

We already have a system, if we would use it - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:09:45 PM EDT

Re: We already have a system, if we would use it - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:39:11 PM EDT

Your idea, right - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:23:19 PM EDT

Getting there. - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:29:01 PM EDT

no, charge 3k for recording fees and they would have it - (boxley) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:29:48 PM EDT

Your question doesn't matter. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:51:56 PM EDT

No it isn't. - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:04:34 PM EDT

This is hilarious. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:27:26 PM EDT

Hmmm ... - (drook) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:34:07 PM EDT

Okay - (drook) - (24) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:11:45 AM EDT

oh for chrissakes. - (beepster) - (23) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:40:08 AM EDT

Let's start from the beginning - (drook) - (22) - Sept. 24, 2010, 01:31:16 PM EDT

Lets. - (beepster) - (21) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:09:19 PM EDT

Got a question - (drook) - (20) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:17:29 PM EDT

Its about effecting change. - (beepster) - (19) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:36:28 PM EDT

You like that Act? - (drook) - (18) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:20:44 PM EDT

You are the one telling me - (beepster) - (17) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:33:11 PM EDT

Standard format != data validation -NT - (drook) - (16) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:48:14 PM EDT

so what? - (beepster) - (15) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:01:06 PM EDT

Punt - (drook) - (14) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:25:02 PM EDT

Except - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 24, 2010, 04:50:50 PM EDT

data entry != data validation -NT - (drook) - Sept. 24, 2010, 05:55:18 PM EDT

hi 90's accuracy for legally binding docs? watchu smoking? -NT - (boxley) - (11) - Sept. 24, 2010, 06:55:24 PM EDT

He's corporate - (crazy) - (10) - Sept. 24, 2010, 11:13:33 PM EDT

Excuse me - (beepster) - (9) - Sept. 25, 2010, 10:55:35 AM EDT

I don't think you know what that word means - (crazy) - (8) - Sept. 25, 2010, 11:43:42 AM EDT

for a guy - (beepster) - (7) - Sept. 25, 2010, 01:47:48 PM EDT

So now ... - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:10:01 PM EDT

Ah, so.. - (beepster) - (5) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:17:46 PM EDT

Ah, let's compare our big swinging - (crazy) - Sept. 25, 2010, 10:47:40 PM EDT

You're still fixing the wrong problem - (drook) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2010, 09:19:37 AM EDT

Re: You're still fixing the wrong problem - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2010, 10:30:07 AM EDT

They already do - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2010, 11:54:34 AM EDT

Look at SCO v IBM. SCO v Novell. SCO v AutoZone... - (folkert) - Sept. 26, 2010, 02:19:52 PM EDT

Re: who needs to type slow, I wot... - (malraux) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:50:33 AM EDT

They did ... sort of - (drook) - (17) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:45:26 PM EDT

Who is the controlling authority - (beepster) - (16) - Sept. 23, 2010, 03:04:13 PM EDT

WTF beep - (boxley) - (15) - Sept. 23, 2010, 04:33:24 PM EDT

Ahh, a magic moment - (crazy) - Sept. 24, 2010, 07:06:34 AM EDT

1983? - (beepster) - (13) - Sept. 24, 2010, 07:26:03 AM EDT

FIFY - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2010, 07:55:57 AM EDT

Re: FIFY - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2010, 09:35:21 AM EDT

People keeping records aren't investigators. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:23:50 AM EDT

and if they keep the correctly - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:41:01 AM EDT

so you got the money in west palm? - (boxley) - (8) - Sept. 24, 2010, 09:16:58 AM EDT

No, a true libertarian would never leave the house - (crazy) - Sept. 24, 2010, 09:56:51 AM EDT

6k times 5...30k, sound outlandish? - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:01:10 AM EDT

Where did I say I want paper? - (drook) - (5) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:28:18 AM EDT

Ok. - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:42:54 AM EDT

Two things: - (malraux) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:49:03 AM EDT

Back to this. - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:55:08 AM EDT

Re: Where did I say I want paper? - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:52:21 AM EDT

Forms - (beepster) - Sept. 24, 2010, 10:55:46 AM EDT

Don't you know how courts work? - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:21:59 PM EDT

Nice red herring - (beepster) - Sept. 23, 2010, 02:30:58 PM EDT

Variation on a theme. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2010, 07:26:36 PM EDT

another thing to remember, title insurance is just that - (boxley) - Sept. 23, 2010, 11:25:06 PM EDT

Foreclosure system rife with fraud and negligence - (jay) - (10) - Sept. 24, 2010, 09:50:22 AM EDT

This covers all the problems... - (folkert) - Sept. 24, 2010, 01:00:03 PM EDT

Hmm - (beepster) - (8) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:18:48 PM EDT

Did you read the "whining of the rich" thread? - (drook) - (7) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:38:08 PM EDT

D'uh - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 24, 2010, 02:52:48 PM EDT

BeeP, meet Beep ... maybe you guys should talk - (drook) - (5) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:27:44 PM EDT

Cost to government /= process cost to bank - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2010, 03:34:47 PM EDT

A unique viewpoint for you - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2010, 07:35:58 AM EDT

Even it it costs 5x private - (beepster) - (2) - Sept. 25, 2010, 10:56:39 AM EDT

Remember that post - (crazy) - (1) - Sept. 25, 2010, 11:46:12 AM EDT

Whatever. -NT - (beepster) - Sept. 25, 2010, 01:48:20 PM EDT

Ok. I give up. - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 24, 2010, 05:05:07 PM EDT

<snoopy dance> - (Another Scott) - (5) - Sept. 24, 2010, 05:23:34 PM EDT

Re: <snoopy dance> - (beepster) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2010, 05:44:19 PM EDT

Sure he did - (crazy) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2010, 07:53:18 AM EDT

ICLRPD: This is RCMC quality. -NT - (drook) - Sept. 25, 2010, 10:49:55 AM EDT

I might actually agree with you - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 25, 2010, 01:50:34 PM EDT

The things you are forgetting... - (folkert) - Sept. 25, 2010, 08:37:25 PM EDT

Oh, one more thing... - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 24, 2010, 11:56:44 PM EDT

funny - (beepster) - (6) - Sept. 25, 2010, 10:58:39 AM EDT

No you're not - (drook) - (5) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:08:31 PM EDT

This ---^ -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:10:57 PM EDT

ok. - (beepster) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:22:57 PM EDT

You've heard of "separation of powers" I assume? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:39:50 PM EDT

not talking about the radio problem - (beepster) - (1) - Sept. 25, 2010, 02:44:09 PM EDT

The system is pretty good. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 25, 2010, 03:46:20 PM EDT

I didn't tell you that it was good! I told you that it was interesting.
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