Hey Gryg

Post #326,989 by crazy 5/28/10 8:29:41 AM Reply	Hey Gryg A pretty good rebuttal to the niceness excuse. http://www.wired.com...oogle+Feedfetcher
Post #326,990 by boxley 5/28/10 8:35:25 AM Reply	so he needs to come up with a line more like I would like to bone you like the ugly fat self centered broad that you are and get out of the way when mr moneybags shows up for your slovenly ass. In the mean time lets get greasy. Let me know how it works thanx, bill
Post #326,997 by crazy 5/28/10 9:51:52 AM Reply	Nope, you got it wrong Reading for comprehension rather than predetermined outcome is usually a skill taught by around 3rd grade. Unless you are in a religious school system, or one that is run by control freaks. Either way, it seems to work for you on technical material, but not social or political. Please try again.
Post #327,000 by boxley 5/28/10 10:10:38 AM Reply	huh? article stated that a bit of self confidence and honesty is helpful, how could my line be taken as anything but?
Post #327,007 by crazy 5/28/10 11:20:02 AM Reply	Sounds like my daughter How can the fat bitch be mad at me for calling her a fat bitch? I was just telling the truth. Truth as an Asberger patient sees it is not to be shared, at least not if you want to fit into society.
Post #327,012 by drook 5/28/10 12:29:32 PM Reply	Wait, when did we start talking about "Dexter"? -- Drew
Post #327,031 by crazy 5/29/10 8:46:59 AM Reply	"Dexter" is a great role model No matter how different you are, if you are smart enough and can hide the difference you can be happy.
Post #327,078 by static 5/30/10 7:57:16 PM Reply	You want to enjoy the hiding, though. Otherwise you ain't happy. Wade. Q:Is it proper to eat cheeseburgers with your fingers? A:No, the fingers should be eaten separately.
Post #327,132 by crazy 5/31/10 10:34:04 PM Reply	Nah Enjoy the activity while hiding, not the hiding itself. That becomes a game of manipulation for the sake of the game. No fun there for me. Find 1 special person to share it all with, no hiding required.
Post #327,133 by crazy 5/31/10 10:34:05 PM 5/31/10 10:34:39 PM Reply	Dupe ^ Edited by crazy May 31, 2010, 10:34:39 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #327,018 by Ashton 5/28/10 3:13:02 PM Reply	'Honesty is a good thing but it is not profitable to its possessor unless it is kept under control. maybe -- by one Dom de Luis (Pretty much covered by crazy) Too old to take a remedial course? I could almost see voting for Palin in 2012 on the grounds that this sorry ratfucking excuse for a republic, this savage, smirking, predatory empire deserves her. Bring on the Rapture, motherfuckers! -- via RC
Post #327,023 by boxley 5/28/10 11:58:23 PM Reply	mebee I travelled in different cirlces when I was younger honesty always worked best. I remember one billy with me in the gaslight lounge. He pointed out a young lady he had been trying to spark for a few evenings. I take a look, not bad. "I bet I can get her to dance with me" bullshit she is stuck up. $20? sure. went over to the table where she was sitting with her female buddies, get the hardnose stare. "excuse me, you see that fellow sitting over there?" That asshole billy? Yeah, he just bet me $20 that you wouldnt dance with me. Give me one dance and I will split it with you right afterwards. Went on the dance floor collected the $20 split it immediately with the girl and spent the next few days with her. Honesty works, sometimes
Post #327,026 by Ashton 5/29/10 3:31:19 AM Reply	Piracy! LRPD nabs it: To err is human, but to Arr is Pirate.
Post #327,033 by crazy 5/29/10 9:02:20 AM 5/29/10 9:11:46 AM Reply	You payed $10 for a dance? How much is that in today's dollars? How much did the next several days cost? Just kidding. Maybe. hehehe On the other hand, you were competing with an idiot, at least according to her. She was waiting for you to make your move, that's all. So the real issue, is, if you wanted her, how come it took until your buddy triggered your competitive instinct to go get her? And why did it last such a short time? Edited by crazy May 29, 2010, 09:05:19 AM EDT Edited by crazy May 29, 2010, 09:11:46 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #327,035 by boxley 5/29/10 9:14:54 AM Reply	ask me at the bash :-)
Post #327,038 by crazy 5/29/10 9:31:44 AM Reply	Will do
Post #327,046 by mhuber 5/29/10 4:09:34 PM Reply	I'm guessing it wasn't the $10, it was the $20 Getting $10 wasn't what convinced her. Costing the other guy $20 is what did it. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)
Post #326,998 by Andrew Grygus 5/28/10 9:59:03 AM 5/28/10 10:12:09 AM Reply	Written by a woman. They are genetically not able to see the problem. It's just as invisible to them as most nice guys are. They are running on a set of hormones that was obsolete in the Paleolithic. True. most of the nice guys I know are married, and most of them are married to homely overweight ladies or ladies who are really pretty strange - because those are the ones who aren't confident they can land a real jerk. And she's talking "geeks" anyway. Most of her points do not apply to the nice guys I know (the only geeks I know are on this board). Oh, yeah, one other thing. Most women can see a nice guy once he, or she, is married, but not before. Edited by Andrew Grygus May 28, 2010, 10:12:09 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #327,006 by crazy 5/28/10 11:18:01 AM Reply	You hit the core requirement without addressing it. But I'll digress for a bit. True. most of the nice guys I know are married, and most of them are married to homely overweight ladies Dude, you're not that pretty. You are (hmm, maybe a 4-6). Maybe less, who knows how good the pictures are that I've seen. What do you weigh? How tall are you? How old are you? How long can you run on the elliptical machine? How many minutes, hours, or days can you delay your own satisfaction to ensure your partner's? How much effort do you put into your own attractiveness? What about repulsion factors? I hate the word, but it is a good opposite of attract. What things about yourself, that you can change, are you willing to? Are you willing to ask multiple people, and press, and get bad news, since it is unlikely you can see them yourself. So maybe you want to determine where you fit on the attractiveness scale before insulting 90% of your possible physical match group. Now, off to the main point. because those are the ones who aren't confident* they can land a real jerk.* Confidence is key, as pointed out in the article. It seems you don't have any. It seems you target people out of your range (if trying at all), expect to be shot down all the time, and I doubt you are very confident in the process. And yes, I'm about 80% supportive of your argument. There ARE evolutionary pressures that push reproducing women in the direction you indicate. When they hit 40 or so, they are DONE. They have a new viewpoint. And those that have their own income, their own profession, and have been making their own decisions for years, are NOT falling for the assholes, at least most of them. But the vulnerable ones, the ones with financial problems, the broken ones, well, they are looking for someone to take care of them. Stay away from them. But the key fact remains a lot of people end up happy, at least for a while. And you seem to want what they have. And it hasn't been working for you. So maybe you should re-examine your attitude and your goals.
Post #327,011 by Andrew Grygus 5/28/10 12:13:14 PM Reply	Actually, I have only one real problem . . . . . my success at getting women to bed has not been all that bad - apparently I'm not that nice a guy. The problem I've had with women is that I've attracted independent women who really only want dinner and good sex (and yes, I can find that thing most men can't find), and not a committed relationship. Unfortunately I didn't achieve the goal of having a Friday, Saturday and Sunday woman until an age when it was no longer a thrill, but rather a bother. Yes, I've encountered desperate types and rejected them. There's usually a very clear reason why they're desperate. No, the problem I have these days is simple. To have women you have to meet women. Single women my age simply don't exist. Well, everyone tells me there are zillions of them. When I ask where they are, I'm told "You just have to go out and find them" - in other words, they don't know either. I see zillions of women too young, and too old out there in the world, but none in my age range that aren't sporting a ring. The single ones must all be huddled in some caffé complaining to each other there are no men.
Post #327,024 by boxley 5/29/10 12:00:03 AM Reply	if they were worth a spit they would already have someone that is a huge problem that I hope I never have to face
Post #327,045 by Andrew Grygus 5/29/10 3:26:14 PM Reply	Actually, I think not. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of good quality single women in my age group out there - it's just that they have no more idea how to find me than I have how to find them.
Post #327,022 by Another Scott 5/28/10 10:27:51 PM Reply	Nice rant. But Lore is a man. :-) http://www.flickr.co...43@N00/2727906766 http://en.wikipedia....Lore_Sj%C3%B6berg Cheers, Scott.
Post #327,044 by Andrew Grygus 5/29/10 2:37:50 PM Reply	Ah, that resolves a number of troubling inconsistencies . . . . with the usual line from women. First of all, talking to geeks. Women don't generally talk to geeks, or anyone who might be one. Like women I meet at . . . well, anywhere. "So you have your own business. That's nice, what kind of business is it?" "Well it involves network and computer technology." "Oooh, excuse me, I see someone across the room I need to talk to - nice meeting you." Works every time - so I've learned never to reveal what my current business is, and I carry CloveGarden business cards.
Post #327,063 by Ashton 5/30/10 2:41:03 AM Reply	The 'computer' modifier seems to be the pheromone inhibitor. Maybe 'geek' (now) is generally associated with anything cerebral(?) and with attendant minutiae, lore which must be stuffed into brain-pan ... all deathly stuff to the casual mind in search of simple pleasures, mostly. But computer-geek multiplies the amount of lore stuffed into such folks' vocabularies -- with new armies of inscrutable TLAs / onion layers of complexity, akin to codebreaking with no plaintext in sight: impossible to 'explain' in KISS manner -- yet so many have tried. (Usually artlessly IME.) Big Science membership OTOH might be thought to produce that earlier 'nerd' (of Fast Times at Ridgemont High and successor flic.) My experience has been, when queried and the accelerator word arose: you still get a break, if your 'explanation' makes suitably cute use of the baseball-on-a-string analogy, and you don't segue into anything which sounds tutorial. The girlfriends of my SO thought the topic even interesting-enough to want to see the place, etc. ('Course too, SO was enroute to a marine bio degree, so no culure clash there.) Not yet very clear why the computer add-on is so stifling; could be that the picture of the field is an imagining that it's all head-work with arcane logical shorthands (as, of course it mostly is) -- maybe akin to the Chess Master game (entirely in-head.) It's an alien concept to anyone who has never delved deeply into how Anything 'works' -- you know -- all those biz-majors who couldn't grok basic algebra, can't replace a plastic light cover (never mind change the switch.) These fast/dumb machines are just too abstruse for being, literally, The Universal Machine (is my guess.) General science things can be related to say ... going to moon; you can show someone a circuit board (even!) and they will look with fascination when you say: this is going into space, eventually beyond the solar system: to count mesons, when we've calibrated the sucker. Ooooh!! Not long ago - - Someone who had at least grokked how Greek stuff like milli-, micro-, nano ... gets to --> pico: was fascinated to see, on a scope: a rise time of half a nSec or so (TD pulser) -- when explained that this 'pulse' had changed from 0 to 1 volt: and you could SEE that happening in "half a billionth of a second!" (actually the scope cart was in my kitchen, in the event..) 'Course: to someone who can't ÷1000 in-head: the above would go ^Zoooom^. Maybe play the intro to 2nd Brandenburg instead, if you happen to have a clarino handy? It's ALL Theatre! doncha know?? Guess computer types need to come up with some much better choreography ... before they get Respect. Eh?
Post #327,060 by Another Scott 5/30/10 1:15:33 AM Reply	The Daily Mash's take on dating and starting a family... http://www.thedailym...ssy-201005272770/ [...] "But nowadays men are so frightened of inadvertently waking up next to a school satchel that they're doing the grey fandango to avoid spending five years picking broken glass out of their dinner." Bishop stressed that the increasing awfulness of teenage girls is also encouraging men to start a family with women who do not need ID to buy glue. He said: "Most women under the age of 25 are a screeching combination of Southern Comfort and Living TV. All of a sudden liver spots seem infinitely preferable to a butterfly tattoo just above the arse." [...] :-) Cheers, Scott.

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